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<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr> <td valign="top" height=130 BGCOLOR="#CC3300" TEXT="#080000" bgproperties="fixed" background="77125821dvmwjc.png"> <div> <B><IMG SRC="8484b5c0.png" border=0 width="75" height="92" ALIGN="LEFT" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="0"></B><FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFCCB2" FACE="Arial" ><B>  </B></FONT></div> <div> <FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFFFFF" FACE="Arial" ><B>Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club</B></FONT><B>     |     </B><A HREF="index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club"><U><B>Home</B></U></A><B>            </B><A HREF="banjers.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Banjers Friends"><U><B><IMG SRC="16f0e0e0.png" border=0 width="14" height="14" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A><FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#FFFFFF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="banjers.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Banjers Friends"><U> Back to "Banjers & Friends</U></A>"</FONT></div> <div> <A HREF="forum_improvements.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Forum Improvements"><U>Forum - Improvements</U></A><B>   |   </B><B>B & F Letters</B></div> <div> </div> </td> </tr><tr> <td valign="top" height=350 BGCOLOR="#FFFFCC" TEXT="#080000"> <div> <I>B & F Letters</I></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B> <A NAME="letters_from_members___friends"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="1" ALIGN="bottom" WIDTH="1" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" ></A></B><FONT SIZE="4" COLOR="#000099" FACE="Arial" ><B>Letters from Members & Friends</B></FONT></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Find here a most interesting correspondence from Visitors and  BMC Members.</B></div> <bR> <div> <B> <TABLE BORDER="2" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="619" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 35 WIDTH="607"><div> <B>Publishig Policy</B>:  Publishing will be always at the Club criteria, depending on space available and general interest of the content, that may be excerpted.  BMC is not responsible for the opinions of the authors.</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>KEEP ON BANJERING, BANJERERS!</B></div> <div> <IMG SRC="86d80750.gif" border=0 width="128" height="117" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> Messages in a bottle</div> <bR> <div> <B>May 11, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From friends Eileen and Peter, who own a Claymore motorsailer</B></div> <div> Buon Giorno, Guillermo!</div> <div> ........my husband, Peter and I are living in the United States with 'Olivebank', Massachusetts East Coast on Cape Cod.</div> <div> However, I know our boat is European and was built in England and that  there are quite a few Claymore's in Scotland and the British Isles.</div> <div> I would be pleased to add the Banjer Club's website address to the links on our page and would appreciate if the favor is returned!</div> <div> Just let me know what the url (address) is and I'll take care of that. </div> <div> And....if you folks know of any Claymore owners send them our way! :-)</div> <div> Happy sailing -</div> <div> Eileen, on M/S 'Olivebank'</div> <div> <A HREF="http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore/index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore"><U><B>http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore/index.htm</B></U></A></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>May 4, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From Martin F., through our web site's form processor.</B></div> <div> I really, really appreciated your extensive information on anchors as I've had a tough time getting any answers on my situation and needs. I've got a WWII Sea Mule tug. 40' long, 12' beam and displaces about 50,000 lbs. I have a 1500 lb stockless anchor which I was given but haven't used yet.</div> <div> Here's my question: What do you think about using wire rope instead of chain or nylon rope? I'm working this boat on a very deep lake 300-500ft.</div> <div> Thanks for any advice.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore:</B></div> <div> Dear Martin,</div> <div> Thanks for your contact through our web pages. I think you are the same  person who asked similar questions at boatdesign.net forums, aren't you?</div> <div> I think there should be no problem to use wire for your ground tackle because of the big depth (otherwise not good for an small one because of the lack of elasticity). It can even be beneficial in your case, as I think 1500 lbs anchor weight is low for the permanent mooring of a 50000 lbs boat in rocky bottoms (as I have told at the forums): the wire's weight (against nylon) can  partially compensate for the lack of weight at the anchor.</div> <div> All the best.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC's Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 29, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>More from PANDORA</B></div> <div> Hi guillermo,</div> <div> I just want to tell you about the banjermen friendship . We are now at home and we had the pleasure to meet  <B>ventvers</B> , <B>damy</B> and <B>gros baloo</B> several times in march and april ,always around a good meal and a good bottle so it s time to stop eating so much, therefore Daniel and I are leaving france on the 14th may to go to cyprus where pandora is . We got 4 new silent blocks( mountings ) for our engine thanks to Frank de Visser who was able to find the spare parts in Holland and send them to france .Thanks again for creating this big family .</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 2, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>Another very kind message from Taylor I. Cook:</B></div> <div> At present my wife and I plus our crew (two Labrador retrievers) cruise the US East coast usually from May to November on our Krogen 44 named "Water Dog". Home port is Charleston,S.C. Will welcome any Banjerites passing through. </div> <bR> <div> <B>March 30, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>We have received this message from </B><B>Taylor I. Cook</B><B>:</B></div> <div> "Looking for info on Banjer 1970/71,open aft cockpit, closed pilot house named <B>Dakine</B>. Bought by me in California 1972. Was in Navy at the time. Orders to East Coast ship required unfortunate sale in Newport, CA. 1974."</div> <div> Any help? </div> <div> Please contact the Commodore: <B>commodore@banjer37.net</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>January 3, 08</B></div> <div> <B>Wishes from QIMMIQ for 2008:</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> Carpe Banjeriem !!</div> <bR> <div> <B>(We'll do that, Frank, we'll do that!)</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 10, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From the BMC's Honourable Secretary.</B></div> <div> .....I thought you would be interested in the attached photo. About 2 weeks ago I was 70 and six months ago, in secret, 11 of my friends - calling themselves the 'Friends of Sulasgeir' - commissioned a model of Sulasgeir which they presented at a party here in Scotland. </div> <div> I am sure you will agree its a fine model and something to treasure - particularly if I have to give up sailing! Which I don't intend to do for some time! </div> <div> Regards </div> <div> Colin</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="117aff090.jpg" border=0 width="255" height="265" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 07, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>Letter from member Brian Hull to Steven K.</B></div> <div> Steven, </div> <div> I have owned my Banjer37 "Duck Soup" since 1984 & lived aboard for more than twenty years. You will find details of Duck Soup on the website as with many other Banjers. The various layouts are also posted on the website. </div> <div> I have just turned sixty nine & have no difficulty single handing Duck Soup. Over the last twenty three years I have completed about sixty thousand miles cruising. This cruising included a number of voyages in the waters of Papua New Guinea & to North Queensland. One four month trip down the east coast of Australia as far as Port Davey on the west coast of Tasmania, a twelve month staggered trip to New Zealand via Southport Queensland, Lord Howe Island, the Bay of Islands & Auckland where I had a total pox job done. We returned via Tonga, Fiji & Vanuatu. Another extended cruise was to Darwin via Thursday Island, Gove & various other anchorages. From Darwin we proceeded to Ambon in Indonesia, then due North to the Halmahera group, South to the equator, due East to Biak in West Papua & then to Vanimo in PNG. From Vanimo we proceeded leisurely back to Port Moresby in home waters. Most of my cruising has been done with one crew. </div> <div> ...........................</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 26, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Hans S.:</B></div> <div> As a super coincidence we were at Terschelling with our <B>Dartsailer 38</B> and there we were together with two other royals: the <B>Banjer</B> and the <B>Fischer</B>.</div> <div> I think you would like to have this picture.</div> <div> Kind regards</div> <div> Hans S</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>(Banjer is ANNE MARIE)</B></div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="117bf5020.jpg" border=0 width="501" height="258" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 25, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> We are arrived in Hurgadha were is a new and beautifull marina we will go back to France 3 weeks while our guest continue 150 miles further and we will join them the 30 of december to continue to Sudan..</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 10, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Steven, in Australia.</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Mr. Gefaell,</div> <div> I was really impressed with the Banjer 37 when I accidentally stumbled on your web site. I had never heard of Banjer until last week.</div> <div> I was looking around for a Nauticat 33, preferrably on the Mediterranean, where I had intended to buy a boat and travel around my country of birth, Greece.</div> <div> Since I am 58 years old, I thought I should not delay it any longer.</div> <div> To be truthful, I thought a Nauticat 33 would do the job for me, easily and safely. Then I saw your web site, and I must confess, I am having second thoughts about the Nauticat until I fully investigate The Banjer. I also considered the Fisher 30, but I think it is too small for me.</div> <div> I am a competent sailor of many years, and the waters around Melbourne, Australia, can get fairly rugged, especially the Tasman Sea and Bass Straight.</div> <div> I currently own a Columbia 27 (based on American Coronado 26 by Columbia USA). I sail single handed usually, and my small boat suits the time I spend on it, and the destinations I take it to.</div> <div> If I am going to visit Greece, and adjacent countries, during the European summers, over the next few years, I would like to do it comfortably and safely, over 3 month intervals, regardless of weather, hence my attraction to "heavy duty" Motorsailers, especially for the Maltemi winds of the Aegean and the Bourini squalls of the Ionian, which I experenced once and could not believe the ferocity of the winds and the boiling sea.</div> <div> I think you are the same Guillermo, who takes part in forums regularly on the web, am I correct? If so, I would appreciate a little advice and Information from you as I am sure you would know how to compare both vessels ( and perhaps the Fisher 30?) in a helpful, if not critical way.</div> <div> Further, I have scoured the net for technical information on both alternatives, but I have not really found any discussions on weak points and strong points.</div> <div> I have not yet found any really good interior photos and Interior layouts of the Banjer. Perhaps you can guide me a little on this.</div> <div> Osmosis would be a point on both I think. But I am generally seeking reliable advice on handling, reversing, poor design, quirks that could surprise if one does not know about them etc.</div> <div> The Nauticat looks quite attractive and seems to have very well thought out accommodation, but the timber decks and superstructure worry me because of probable deck and house leaks and therefore rot.</div> <div> The Banjer appears to be a no nonsense rugged design, but at the same time, beautiful. Truly a timeless craft, I thought.</div> <div> The Banjer apparently is all fibreglass, but what about hull to deck connection? Are the spars alloy or timber?</div> <div> It seems Banjers have tabernacled masts and less draft ....... handy for canal cruising?</div> <div> Sorry for rambling on and appearing to be answering my own questions, but I have only one chance at this ....... If I get it wrong, it may overturn my plans.</div> <div> And finally, I don't mind if a little work has to be done to get whichever craft up to standard. I am an engineer by profession, but with a good understanding of woodwork, epoxy laminating and treatments, and a reasonable mechanic and electrician. But of course, I don't want to rebuild a boat. I would rather use it for travel and accommodation.</div> <div> I think I have intruded into your time more than I had intended. I would love to get your opinions or a guide to sources of information, where I can make a good decision.</div> <div> Very best regards and congratulations on the Banjer web site.</div> <div> Steven K.</div> <div> Australia.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 14, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Perry in the UK:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello Guillermo, Are any Banjers fitted with Bruntons Autoprops?</div> <div> <U>http://www.bruntons-propellers.com/</U></div> <div> <U>http://www.autoprop.com/</U></div> <div> If so, do you have any feedback?</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <div> Perry</div> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >Email: </FONT><B>perrydebell</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>NOSPAM</B></FONT><B>@blueyonder.co.uk </B>(remove <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>NOSPAM</B></FONT> from address)</div> <bR> <div> Perry would appreciate any info from any of our fellowmembers who has installed this kind of propellers in his/her Banjer. </div> <div> If you can be of help, please contact him.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 07, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> We are once more in Egypt. But this time we are not on our boat Pandora we are crew on a catamaran called MAILYS. </div> <div> We met this french couple in Larnaka and we talked about Egypt and Red Sea. They were a bit afraid about Suez Canal and Red Sea.</div> <div> The vascodagama rallye going till India was at this time in Larnaka, and they decided to go with this rallye. But the day after they asked us to go onboard with them!</div> <div> We threw our bag on their boat and the day after we are sailing to Port Said.</div> <div> Now our captain ... thinks to go to India.</div> <div> All the information about this trip is can be found on <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://www.vascodamarally.nl" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.vascodamarally.nl"><U><B>www.vascodagamarally.nl</B></U></A></FONT></div> <div> Hope to see you again </div> <div> Daniel & Monique</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 30, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PAX MERCERIUM:</B></div> <div> Just a note to let you know the bow thruster, a Vetus 75, was installed, and has worked very well especially in docking on tight, difficult spaces. We had a great summer on <B>Pax Mercerium</B>. Interestingly, at Chatterbox Falls, Princess Louisa Inlet, we anchored and, surprise, the other Banjer in BC, named <B>Island Rover</B>, arrived to anchor a boat over from us. She had just been purchased by a new owner; ...... Later on when we went into Gibson’s (a days 7-knot motor from Vancouver), we heard from the wharfinger that he lives in ..... and had just been into Gibson’s a few days before. Many people notice the fine lines of the Banjer and noticed <B>Pax Mercerium</B> and <B>Island Rover</B> as “sister ships”, so to speak.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 22, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>We welcome the new owner of PHILEAS (Ex- LE RESOLU) as  a member of the Club. </B></div> <div> <B>Be very welcome aboard!</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 29, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>A most funny letter received by a member of the Club:</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>Dear Dear XXXXXX, </B></div> <div> <B>Thanks. I think I will like to have the banjer for my retirement and I am ready to pay the 67,000Euros but it is based on condition.</B> </div> <div> <B>XXXXXX, I am a civil servant and I need to do things with protocol and I want you have an idea about my personality. </B></div> <div> <B>My name is Prof. Charles Soludo, I am the Governor*Central Bank of Nigeria *, </B></div> <div> <B>Due to my position as the Governor, I will not be able to pay you directly, because of the political under tone in my country, moreover, we have a new Government in placed and which is seeking my termination, in view of this, I am preparing for my retirement also, and that is why I am interested in buying the boat.</B></div> <div> <B>I want you to buy the boat in my wife's name on my behalf and you will be handsomely paid for your services, my wife will be coming over to meet with you upon receipt of money.</B></div> <div> <B>You will receive the payment by applying to Automated Department as one of the Contractor I owed while in office.</B> </div> <div> <B>It is a new payment scheme and right now we have started paying foreigners that worked with us as a contractor and my intention is to have your name inputted into the database and all you need to do is to apply to the payment department for the release of your contract payment and which I as the head of the central bank will sign and it shall be paid to you accordingly.</B></div> <div> <B>You will make nothing less than 250,000Euros working with me on this project.</B></div> <div> <B>If you are interested get back to me. </B></div> <div> <B>I am using this medium because of my position and to make you feel secure, I am ready to provide you with some personal details about myself that is only if you are ready to work with me.</B></div> <div> <B>Thanks</B></div> <div> <B>Prof.Charles Soludo</B> </div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="10c735350.gif" border=0 width="53" height="53" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 26, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From Anne-Ilse, searching for Banjer 'LAST LOVE'</B></div> <div> Name: Anne-Ilse placke</div> <div> Email: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><B>Anne-ilse@web.de</B></FONT></div> <div> Comments: i am looking for the banjer "last love" in monastir/Tunesie, which belong to Ludwig and Resi. I would like to sent them a note and greetings,  but I dont know how. Please can you help me???</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>May 17, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From DOUWE WILLEM's former owner</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo, </div> <div> (Chairman) and to all Banjer members,<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> With this message I want to let you all know that DOUWE WILLEM is now/on this moment on his way home to Danmark with his new owner Lars. I want to thank you Guillermo, Chus for missing him so many times, Mr. Ton Koot and wife and all the other people , who gave us so many nice memories being a member of your excellent club. Especially Mrs. Ineke de Grijs who made us so a nice Chinese meal on our trip to the 2e meeting in Rotterdam in 2004. I want you all thank for everything it was realy<B> UNFORGETTABLE</B>. I wish you a very good continuation keeping your Banjers in excellent shape. and keep allways water under the keel.................................<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> And you have to remember that OLD BANJERS NEVER DIE.......<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Your Banjer-lovers for ever LYDIA and TOM ZWIJNENBERG. </div> <div> Fare well and good luck.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 9, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Phil Ellis</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="d5f222d0.jpg" border=0 width="34" height="45" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>The Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club mourns for the sudden death </B></div> <div> <B>of our fellow member Alan, former owner of PELICAN OF BIRDHAM.</B></div> <div> <B>Our sorrow to his wife, family and friends.</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <bR> <div> You will recall that some time ago I sold "Pelican of Birdham" to Alan W-J and you will know what an enthusiastic owner and contributor to the Banjer cause he became.</div> <div> It is is with great sadness I have to tell you that Alan died suddenly at the end of March whilst exercising at his local Gymnasium, his death is a great loss to his wife and family and his many friends. Alan and I became quite good friends and shall miss our many talks. This year he was planning a summer cruise with Pelican to the West coast of Scotland which he was looking forward to enormously.</div> <div> .......................................</div> <div> Best regards</div> <bR> <div> Philip Ellis</div> <div> Falmouth</div> <div> Ex Banjer Owner</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 17, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From new owner of PAX MERCERIUM (Ex-Huntress)</B></div> <div> Hello Commodore Guillermo Gefaell and Club Members,</div> <div> .....here are some pictures of my Banjer, Pax Mercerium, formerly Huntress....</div> <div> You will note wooden name plates removed and addition of davit for Avon 3.1 on stern. Boat has updated hydraulic steering, autopilot, reworked 1994 Perkins Diesel - 4 cylinder, 85 HP, reworked electrics with North American direct current cigarette-style plugs and updated AC system with AC and DC switches coordinated in wheelhouse on single panel, large black water holding tank, Diesel furnace (Espar), added teak cup holders in wheelhouse, cooler/freezer in wheelhouse (where is fold-down seat – top of cooler is now seat). Also two auto bilge pumps in addition to the manual pumps.</div> <div> Sail plan is in Canada described as ketch-rigged, with 4 sails available.</div> <div> Boat (to clarify) first purchased in Chicago 1972 by an American (built 1970), brought to Tacoma (not Seattle – the two cities share the same airport), then sold to second American owner in Seattle area (Bainbridge Island) who brought her to Campbell River on Vancouver Island as he now shares a small nearby island with others, the reason he sold the boat to me, the third owner, a Canadian resident in Vancouver. Boat is registered in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island where we have another property.</div> <div> Incidentally, the type is A-4 (rear cockpit, full wheelhouse); I had not noticed your types when I filled in the form.</div> <div> I have to go to the Boat to obtain the Boat number; I will send that to you in due course.</div> <div> Please also advise of post 2007 get-together. I come to Sweden/ Norway and Belgium, every two years, and could join you (but likely not with the boat) after 2007. The year 2007 is circumnavigation of Vancouver Island (3 weeks +) and trips up North on this coast.</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="102efc5f0.jpg" border=0 width="252" height="351" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="103112600.jpg" border=0 width="530" height="352" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 2, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From the Commodore:</B></div> <bR> <div> I have had my home computer out of work for a long time, so no updates of these pages have been done from last December till today. </div> <div> Now everything's correct again and I will continue updating the site as usual.</div> <div> Thanks to all for your patience.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 19, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BANJER #12 & CHAPEAU, regarding PANDORA's problem</B></div> <div> (A very nice example of collaborativeness among members)</div> <bR> <div> ....I was in Vietnam last week and spoke to a guy from Promac. He told me that all parts should still be available.</div> <div> Please let me know if you still require the parts. I can talk to him and maybe arrange something. If so let me have the parts numbers.</div> <div> (BANJER #12)</div> <bR> <div> ....(PANDORA) has asked me for help. He had sent me money by mail. Last week I  phoned Promac and paid the spares. </div> <div> So Promac will send the spares to (him) now.</div> <div> (CHAPEAU)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 08, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From ANNE MARIE ex-owners</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo, </div> <div> I would like to inform you, that we have sold our banjer 37 three weeks ago. We were contacted via your web side, and found very nice people who will take care of our boat as well as we did over the last 26 years. </div> <div> Never the less we will also in the future visit your web side seeing all these beatiful fotos of other banjers, because for sure we will miss our boat very much. </div> <div> Kind regards </div> <div> Karl and Anne Marie.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Oct 30, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BANJER (#12) to PANDORA:</B></div> <div> About 30 years ago my father bought one of the old canal barges in Holland and it had the same Seffle steering gear as on the Banjers. We also had a problem with the ball joints one day. I guess you mean with these the four flexible connection points on the steering gear foundation and the rudder yoke.</div> <div> If I remember correctly we exchanged them with the ball joint from the steering system of the volkswagen bus model of that time. (Early seventies) This solution has been working for 20 years. I am not 100% sure but I am quite sure that this type of VW bus must be still driving around in Jordan.</div> <div> Good luck and best regards.</div> <bR> <div> <B>From PELICAN OF BIRDHAM to PANDORA</B></div> <div> I have talked to my engineer over in the west of Scotland. </div> <div> He has talked to a UK company that are the UK agents for Promac in Holland. We are giving then full details of our steering to see what they can do to replace parts in my steering box. If I have to get a new box I will let you know but it maybe sometime before my engineer has time to work on it. </div> <div> By all means contact them with your problem. They are:</div> <div> <B>Martin Saer </B></div> <div> <B>Euromarine Ltd </B></div> <div> <B>++44 238 058 0020 </B></div> <div> <B>m.saer@eiromarine.com</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Good luck! I hope they can help.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Oct 28, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> Hi guillermo,</div> <div> Here are some news from PANDORA . Since we last met in Rotterdam in 2004 , Pandora left Turkey .We reached Israel after a stop in Cyprus. Last november (in 2005 ) we joined a rallye heading for India: <A HREF="http://www.vascodagamayachtrallye.nl" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.vascodagamayachtrallye.nl"><U><B>www.vascodagamarallye.nl</B></U></A></div> <div> We didn’t want to go so far so quick , so we stopped  in Eilat , in the north of the gulf of AQABA . We are now in JORDAN , enjoying our stay here with 30 degrees .BUT ALL IS WELL  THAT DOESN’T END WELL!!  In fact we have a problem with our SEFFLE steering wheel : one of the four balljoints is damaged  and a bit loose .We managed to repair this problem by adjusting a washer above the balljoint but  we would prefer, of course, to change the balljoints .We sent a mail to PROMAC : info@promac.nl  which is supposed to replace SEFFLE, to order the spareparts but no answer at the moment . Do you know where we could find this ? On our  hydraulic steering gear system we can read TYPE  HL 44O number 522 . Thanks for your help even if you can’t help us !!! We’ll be there at the next club gathering  </div> <div> from D. and M. onboard PANDORA</div> <bR> <div> (As I have not better info about Seffle than the constat in the Workshop page, I forwarded the letter to several members to find out if somebody can be of more help. Guillermo)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 22, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From ALBATROS owners:</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo</div> <div> Although a bit late, please find some pictures of the mini-Banjer meeting in Falmouth July/August. </div> <div> By copying .... you will see our 3 banjers (<B>Albatros, Young Banjer </B>and <B>Dutchess of Lynn</B>) laying together in Falmouth. </div> <div> ......</div> <div> Hope you can do something with these pictures on the web site! </div> <div> Best regards, </div> <div> R & J</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="10115f070.png" border=0 width="351" height="263" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="101361080.png" border=0 width="353" height="264" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>October 18, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BRAVOUR owner:</B></div> <div> I have now assembled my summer photos and send you a selection and a list of what I have done to Bravour over the last nine months.</div> <div> I bought her in Hellevoetsluijs in November 2005 and then she went to Jachthaven Numansdorp where the following work was undertaken:</div> <bR> <div> engine out for rebuilding,</div> <div> gearbox split and refurbished</div> <div> new fuel pump</div> <div> new alternator</div> <div> new starter-motor</div> <div> new prop</div> <div> new prop-shaft</div> <div> new flexible engine-mounts</div> <div> new flexible coupling</div> <div> main-mast support fabricated and fitted,</div> <div> seacocks replaced,</div> <div> anchor-winch refurbished,</div> <div> Sea-Me radar transponder fitted,</div> <div> radar serviced and repaired</div> <div> new depth and speed transponders fitted</div> <div> Yeoman chart plotting system fitted</div> <bR> <div> This year I have cruised along the N. Brittany coast and she is now back in .... UK where additional work is being undertaken:</div> <bR> <div> Fit new heads holding tank</div> <div> Fit new autopilot</div> <div> New rubbing-strakes</div> <div> Repaint shear-line</div> <bR> <div> Here are some photos of boat, work and cruise.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="ffc53ff0.jpg" border=0 width="339" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="ffe54ff0.jpg" border=0 width="340" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="1000bfff0.jpg" border=0 width="191" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 18, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From R</B><B>ik, in The Netherlands:</B></div> <div> Is it possible to put a banjer 37' on a bank with low tide?</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Club:</B></div> <div> Dear Rik,</div> <div> Sorry for the delay in answering, but I've been out of town for several days.</div> <div> Answering your question: Yes, it is posssible to lay a Banjer on her keel with no problems at all. The only thing you'll need is a pair of 'legs' to keep her upright when the tide comes down.</div> <div> All the best.</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 03, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>Even more info from Jan:</B></div> <div> Jan tells us his father's Banjer was named <B>NINA II</B></div> <div> We know this Banjer has been seen sailing east Med not a long time ago. </div> <div> We would be delighted to receive her owners as members of the BMC.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 06, 2006.</B></div> <div> <B>More from Jan:</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> ....My father´s Banjer was berthed in the harbor of Jachtwerf Tjeukemeer in Lemmer/Ijsselmeer/Holland from 1972 until 1978, and in Marina Stavoren from 1978 until 1983/84. It was a "standard" Banjer, cockpit, wheelhouse, no aft cabin. Ketch-rigged (no gaff sails), with a Perkins 72 hp engine. It was equipped with a non-standard bowsprit (an own drawing of my father, fitted by Eista in Nederhemert around 1976): rather short (about 100 cm), massive teak, rectangular shape, treadmaster on the top, railing around it, with integrated anchor roll. Maybe that helps to find the boat. I do not know whether the new owners kept the name, but as far as I remember, the boat was sold to a retired engineer and his wife and they wanted to sail the mediterranean...? Maybe I can contact de Valk and find out more about it, I will let you know....</div> <div> Kindest regards,</div> <div> Jan.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 03, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From Jan B. willing to own a Banjer:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear All,</div> <div> when I was little, my father owned a Banjer, <B>"Nina II"</B>, built in 1972, which he sold with de Valk in Hindeloopen in 1984/85. My whife an I are now looking for a new boat, and I have to admit I have always been dreaming of owning a Banjer myself. I wonder whether anyone might know where the hull molds of the Banjer ended up. I know that some years ago there has been a "startup" shipyard in Germany, advertising a "Bose 37" which must have been a Banjer. I have never heard of them again, and Google seems to be of no big help here. Do you have any idea who I could contact? </div> <div> Kindest regards, Jan B.</div> <bR> <div> (Contacts with Jan through the Club. If you know something about the Banjer moulds, please tell us. <A HREF="contactus.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Contact Us "><U><B>Contacts</B></U></A>)</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 29, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From KITTYHAWK's owner:</B></div> <div> Dear Chuck,</div> <div> Removing the rudder is simple.You first have to remove the hydroulic cylinder from the ruddershaft, then unthighten the ring that is placed around the rudder shaft ,  then you just have to lift the rudder (including the shaft) up a bit out of the lower bearing .Then you lower the complete rudder.</div> <div> On the Kittyhawk the bearing is not made of tufnol but of copper outside and rubber inside. The same as the bearing of the proppelorshaft.</div> <div> When you remove the 4 bolts of the little square on your rudder , you can take the ruddershaft and the rudder apart.</div> <div> It seems to me unlikely that the 6 centimeters thick ruddershaft is broken unless it is corroded.</div> <div> For this i have placed an annode of zinck material around the shaft.</div> <div> It looks like the inside metal strips of your rudder (inside the polyester hull of the rudder) are broken.</div> <div> In that case the rudder and the hydroulic cylinder can move seperately as well.</div> <div> Sorry for the english.</div> <div> Kind regards, Dees.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 24, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From MARIBE's owner:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo: </div> <div> .................................</div> <div> I do have a problem I would like some input on: A few years after the boat was new, the rudder developed so much friction in the tufnol (?) bearings that it could not be turned with the emergency tiller, only the hydraulics had enough power to overcome the friction and damage was done to the plywood shelf where the upper flange secures the top of the rudder post. </div> <div> We removed the rudder (In the boatyard) and relieved the bearings by grinding with a cylinder honing tool, reassembled it and had no further trouble until now, when the rudder shaft has apparently broken inside the grease tube, between the upper and lower bearing, as the rudder moves freely and the steering quadrant moves freely, independently of each other.It may be that the period of heavy friction stressed the rudder post to a fatigue failure mode.My immediate problem is the removal of the rudder, while the boat is in the water, (vastly inconvenient to move to a boatyard) My memory does not suffice to recall the details of the previous rudder removal, but the rudder itself has a flange about four inches square which is attached with four bolts to an identical flange on the bottom of the "stub" rudder post which extends up through the grease-filled tube to the upper bearing and quadrant. These flanges are just below the water line and easily accessible, but if I remove those bolts, can I swing the rudder out and away from the heel bearing, or do I have to push the upper part of the ruder post up to get enough clearance? </div> <bR> <div> Maybe others have had similar rudder problems, but our experience with the tight bearings is a caution for any Banjer owner, easily checked if you open the hydraulic bypass valve and try the manual emergency tiller for excessive resistance to turning the rudder. </div> <bR> <div> Well, such a spiel, and nothing said about the marvelous qualities of Banjers, their comfort, seaworthiness, and the surprise many "old tropic hands" displayed when they discovered the "north sea pilot house" is actually a luxury in the tropics! </div> <div> With thanks,..........</div> <div> Chuck R.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from Guillermo:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Chuck, </div> <div> Thanks for your most interesting message. With your permission I'll post it at our web pages, for other Banjer owners to know about the rudder stock problems. </div> <div> Personally I do not have experience dismounting the rudder, as I had not the needing to do it until now, but I think dismounting can be safely done afloat. In my opinion, after removing flange bolts, you should lift somewhat the rudder stock with its flange before taking off the rudder, just not to force the base pin and bearing. </div> <div> I would be happy to receive a nice photo from MARIBE whenever you get one. </div> <div> Let me know if I can be of further help. I recommend you to post technical questions, as this rudder stock one, at the Maintenance Forum you can access from our Home page. Maybe other members can also be of help to you through that Forum. </div> <div> All the best. </div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>11.06.2006</B></div> <div> <B>From Oscar Alstede, BMC's  Secretary:</B></div> <bR> <div> Banjers photos at Oscar Alstede's site:  <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/oalstede" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://community.webshots.com/user/oalst"><U><B>http://community.webshots.com/user/oalstede</B></U></A><B>   </B></FONT><B>45,000 - Photoviews</B> passed !!!</div> <div> The 1,476 photos have been viewed 45,405 times since January 17th 2004</div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Oscar Alstede</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>06.05.2006</B></div> <div> <B>Great help from friend Tad Roberts, a boatdesigner from Canada with lovely designs:</B></div> <bR> <div> Guillermo,</div> <div> I attach a scan from the Perkins sheet on the 4236M. Hope this is of some help. No fuel use mentioned! If you would like the other pages just let me know.</div> <div> Pity there is no specific fuel use curve. My thought was that at your reported consumption of 1.08 lts/mile at 6 knots which I put at 1.71 US gph the engine is producing somewhere between 26.6 and 34 HP? That’s specific consumption of .35-.45 pounds of fuel per HP hour.</div> <div> All the best, Tad</div> <bR> <div> Tad Roberts Yacht Design</div> <div> PO Box 33</div> <div> Gabriola Island, BC</div> <div> V0R 1X0 Canada</div> <div> 250-247-9315</div> <div> email <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>tadroberts@shaw.ca</U></FONT></div> <div> <U>www.tadroberts.ca</U></div> <div> <U>www.passagemakerlite.com</U></div> <div> <U>www.shipyardraid.ca</U></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>(Find more info at Workshop page)</B></div> <div> <A HREF="workshop.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Workshop"><U><B><IMG SRC="fca72e40.jpg" border=0 width="370" height="484" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>02.05.2006</B></div> <div> <B>From member Brian Hull:</B></div> <div> Guillermo, </div> <div> Last Sunday the Royal Papua Yacht Club had its annual sail past to signal the opening of the sailing season. </div> <div> I gave the club the option to consider Duck Soup as either a motor boat or sail boat as Banjers are 50/50 motor sailers.</div> <div> Duck Soup won the prize of PGK500 for best dressed motor boat. </div> <div> I will be coming to Europe for three weeks at the beginning of July. </div> <div> I am flying from Port Moresby to Singapore/Bangkok/Helsinki/Brussels and will be staying with friends at Waterloo just outside Brussels.</div> <div> My plans are very fluid and should there be something of interest to Banjer owners occurring whist in Europe I may be able to attend.</div> <div> Keep in touch. </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fb84fdf0.jpg" border=0 width="335" height="223" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="fba50e00.jpg" border=0 width="336" height="224" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>14.01.2006</B></div> <div> <B>Good old Marie and the BMC in the Spanish newspapers...</B></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fb3bc790.jpg" border=0 width="700" height="633" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.12.2005</B></div> <div> <B>From members Daniel & Monique (Banjer Pandora)</B>:</div> <div> ...we are now in Israel but on the Red Sea side. We turn the Sinai and visit Jordan and Egypt. We will leave Pandora in ... for some months because we will go to India with another boat next winter. Wi will spend a lot of time in Egypt and Red Sea. Anyway we will be able to go to the next meeting in Amsterdam.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>20.10.2005</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Glenn Lewis</B></div> <div> ....I found your info on anchors very helpful, as I work out my specific needs for my 36ft. powerboat. Thanks again.</div> <div> Glenn Lewis.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>31.08.2005</B></div> <div> <B>From Commodore to all BMC USA members:</B></div> <div> Dear BMC USA Chapter's members,</div> <div> On behalf of the BMC I want to transmit our condolencies for the terrible devastation caused by hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and other zones in the south of the USA. We hope you and your beloved ones are fine and have not suffered in this disaster.</div> <div> Best wishes to all of you.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from Ellie Naill, USA Delegate:</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> This has been a great national disaster – we are not materially affected on the west coast – but our emergency services organizations are sending many people from our area. They are having large crash courses in how to help in an emergency because there is not enough emergency personnel. I wish I were younger – I would love to help, but my help at this point is fervent prayers. Sometimes us human beings forget how delicate and fragile we really are. We should all consider this a wakeup call to remind us of the good and important things in life – our loved ones and the brotherhood of man. It is amazing how the frivolous things we fret over disappear at times like this!</div> <div> Thank you – and keep our southern brothers in your prayers too.</div> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="d5f222d0.jpg" border=0 width="34" height="45" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>The Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club mourns for the victims </B></div> <div> <B>of devastating hurricane "Katrina" in south USA.</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>15.08.05</B></div> <div> <B>Colin Whimster, BMC's UK Delegate sends an SMS from the north:</B></div> <div> "SULASGEIR heading east from Kirkenes today rounded North Cape, 71 deg 11 min north, morale high, no scurvy, now west and south to Tromso"</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>13.08.05</B></div> <div> <B>Ton Koot, BMC Treasurer, writes an SMS from his Channel Islands trip:</B></div> <div> "Today we sail along the Belgium coast. Next weekend back home. Angus & Leslie invited us for supper at their lovely home. Very nice evening. Till now weather good. In Holland bad. Galicia hot and dry?..."</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>21.07.05</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Sytse Z., who found an unknown (To the BMC) Banjer:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello,</div> <div> For many years I like the Banjer 37 as a sturdy and well looking motorsailer though I have never owned a sailing boat by myself. Even so I am</div> <div> impressed by the nice website of the Banjer Motorsailer Club (BMC), a good platform for the BMC members and others who own a Banjer motorsailor. It gives a lot of information about history and technical matter. Congratulations for the BMC team.</div> <div> As I understand many owners are a member of BMC yet but on the website I have read that BMC is looking for another 4 hulls of Banjers that are (probably) finished by the buyers after purchase.</div> <div> As a owner of a (single screw) "Channel Island 32" motor yacht (fast sturdy Pilot-type) my boat's home location is at the lake "IJsselmeer" in Holland... It was some months ago that I spotted a sailing yacht over there with a Banjer-like hull. Earlier I did not recognized her as a Banjer because of her non-standard finish.... She has only one main silver-anodized mast (short, non-original), a wooden fore cabin and a wooden aft cabin (both plywood), an open but covered cockpit, etc. But the hull is undoubtedly of a Banjer !! Maybe the owner is already a BMC member. If not the following information could be of interest for BMC and this boat is one of the missing Banjers BMC is searching for.....</div> <div> Recently I took a picture of this boat and attached it to this e-mail. The original is 2.5 Mb but I compressed it to a rather handy size without</div> <div> affecting the quality.....</div> <div> Thats all for now. I hope this information will help you in searching.</div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Sytse Z.</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="e8ae46b0.jpg" border=0 width="484" height="363" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore (Sytse's e-mail address seems not to work)</B></div> <div> Dear Syste:</div> <div> Thank you so much for your kind info about this Banjer and your nice words on our web site!</div> <div> We didn't knew about this particular unit, so your info it's most important for us. Some Banjers were home made after Eista closed its activity, but we do not know how many have been built this way. They cannot be considered as original Banjers, but anyhow they have at least a Banjers' hull.</div> <div> The Banjer you inform us now, seems to be one of those units, inspired in the arrangement of a Type A-3 version; the one with rear cabin, central cockpit, and a windshield. The special thing is the mounting of a single mast, which is not usual at all....</div> <div> I'm copying this message to Ton Koot, the BMC Treasurer, so he can try to get in touch someday with the owners and find out more about this unit. I will also post your message and the photo at our web pages to help in the search.</div> <div> Thanks again for your very kind contact and info. I wish you pleasant sailings on your very nice boat, the Channel Island 32.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>12.07.05</B></div> <div> <B>News from SULASGEIR OF LORNE:</B></div> <div> I hope you are well and having a good season.... </div> <div> Sulasgeir is now at Norrtalje about 50k north of Stockholm. We had a good trip in May/June down the west coast of Sweden, through the Gota Canal, in the islands and then into Lake Malaran to Stockholm. </div> <div> I am going back with friends on 28th July to go north to Haparanda and then overland to Kirkenes and round North Cape to Tromso. I will write up the account in September - if every thing goes well! </div> <div> I have found a press release on the internet about Seffle Marine. </div> <div> See <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>www.hme.nl/companies/archive.asp?NewsID=583</U></FONT> </div> <div> It says that all the trade of Seffle have been taken over by Promac. Also see <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>www.promac.nl</U></FONT> </div> <div> So that is good news: my steering leaks a bit and I think I may need to replace the pump behind the wheel at some stage. </div> <div> Best wishes </div> <div> Colin</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>20.02.05</B></div> <div> <B>Interesting correspondence about Motorsailers & Motorsailing, Banjers and Roggers:</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>From Ives in Belgium:</B></div> <div> After 30 years pure sailing wet,even with our oil skins, we bought  a nab 35 (rasmus), after that we get motor boat: Powless 38 for confort and easy live aboard.But motoring is against our way of life. We were thinking for a boat with not only a wheel house but also with spacious deck saloon and we meet her In ramsgate... Not really a banjer but a rogger 36. It is the FIRST TIME we owned really THE BOAT we want and fully corresponding to our navigation programm!!!France,brittany,East coast rivers, and we hope it now, scotland. I can send photos if you want.We ask you if it is possible to be member of your club? Many thanks for your very nice and interssting site. </div> <div> Yves.</div> <bR> <div> Dear Yves,</div> <div> Congratulations for your new Rogger 36! It is a wonderful boat and you will enjoy it for years to come!</div> <div> We are most greatful for your interest in the Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club and for your nice words about our site. But really we are a "Banjers Club" and not a "Roggers Club". As you may already know, there is a Roggers Association named the "Rogger Motorsailer Club" in Holland, admiting world wide memberships. I think you should become a member of that Club as it will be most interesting for you. They have a web site at: www.rogger.net . Its Chairman, Hans Havers, is a good friend of mine and a most nice person. He encouraged me to beguin with this Banjers Club thing. He speaks fluent english and I think also some french, and will be delighted in receiving you as a member of the RMC. Why don't you get in touch with him? His e-mail address is: rogger@zonnet.nl   I'm copying this message to him, for him to know about you.</div> <div> Well, Ives, this is all for the time being. Contact Hans and become a RMC member. On our side, you'll always be considered a "Banjers Friend" and your visits to our pages and whatever collaboration you would like to give us will be most appreciated.</div> <div> With kind regards,</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Again from Ives:</B></div> <div> First, thank you for your quick answer. Two: I'm more interested by the part of your web site called "motorsailers & motorsailing" I'm not an "ellitist"(presque en francais dans le texte) that's why I dont want to be a member of a club just only because I'm the owner of a boat from this or this model , I'm just looking for people who are sailing with the same feeling than mine . Certainly I'll be member of the rogger site (I know the site).Many thanks for all and I'm being sure we'll enjoy the boat.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Dear Ives, </div> <div> Thanks for the nice rogger's photos. </div> <div> Regarding the boating philoshophy, I agree with you that the main question to join a Club (If we think we have to join one at all!) is about what's our own way of understanding boating and sea. From my point of view, owning a motorsailer is almost a way of life and a way of understanding sailing in its own, as well as a way of understanding sea. But unluckily there is not a Motorsailers & Motorsailing club, organization, or whatever. There are plenty of cruising associations and clubs, where motorsailers have their place, for sure, but not a devoted Motorsailing one. And I do not know if such an organization would have enough interest for motorsailers owners, as many of them feel themselves more as being part of the cruising community rather than part of an hypothetical motorsailing one. </div> <div> Maybe I personally would like to join such a "Motorsailing Community", as I think motorsailing is a kind of sailing philosophy in its own, but I have written to many motorsailers owners associations looking for a possible interest, and the feedback up to now has been zero. On the other hand it is interesting to see the big amount of visits to our site's <A HREF="http://www.xente.mundo-r.com/motorsailers/" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.xente.mundo-r.com/motorsailer"><U><B>Motorsailers & Motorsailing </B></U></A>devoted pages, since we published it a couple of months ago. Around 1.200 page views per month and growing. Perhaps...? </div> <div> Regarding our Clubs, the Banjers' and the Roggers': What I can tell you is that none of us is an "ellitist" or pretentious person, as far as I know members of both Clubs. We are plain and normal people, who like sailing, like motorsailers, are in love with our boats and want to join other nice people with the same kind of feelings. In addition, we think it is most convenient to be able to share sailing experiences and maintenance tips for our Banjers and Roggers with other fellow-members. No obligations, no impositions. Just being in love with our boats. That's all. </div> <div> Best regards, </div> <div> Guillermo </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>08.02.05</B></div> <div> <B>From BARCAROLLE former owner and BMC member</B></div> <bR> <div> ...I write to inform you that Barcarolle has been sold during the last weekend to a very nice couple from Denmark, they found her on your Buy&Sell  page and I think they will contact you soon to become members of the club.</div> <div> Having been a family member since almost 30 year back Barcarolle has given 3  generations, my parents, me and my brother and sisters and finaly my children, many wonderful memories from trips all around the scandinavian coasts and canals.</div> <div> I think she will be in very good hands and continue to flourish and seduce people with her beauty wherever she visits a new harbour.</div> <div> I will continue to keep an eye on your web site and if there is anything I can help you concerning sailing in the scandinavian waters, feel free to call or sending an e-mail.</div> <div> With Kind Regards</div> <div> Leif B.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>14.01.05</B></div> <div> <B>From Jeremy, in Florida</B></div> <div> I have a motorsailer that I am trying to research its origins. I would appreciate any help. I have included a few pictures. </div> <div> Thanks for any help. </div> <div> Jeremy</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="d87c2c50.png" border=0 width="194" height="197" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="d89acc50.png" border=0 width="172" height="197" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="d8ba4c50.png" border=0 width="164" height="197" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Jeremy: </div> <div> Thanks for your kind message. </div> <div> I do not know the brand or model of your motorsailer, but I'll post your mail and some photos at our web pages, to help you to spread the word and so widen the possibilty of somebody being able to identify her. You should also send your request to some of the boating magazines, such as Practical Boat Owner, if you haven't did it already, because that allows you to reach much more people. </div> <div> Where are you from and where did you purchase the boat? Knowing the country/zone may help. </div> <div> Best regards, </div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo, </div> <div> Thanks for the information, I had not thought of asking the boating magazines. We purchased the boat about 8 months ago in Ft. Lauderdale FL. The boat is according to the title a 1963 Vega, 36' motorsailer. With further research we question the authenticity of the boat type. We have been unable to find anything that resembles the boat with the exception of the Banjer 37, but there are key differences that would not make it a Banjer. We cannot contact the owner because the boat was part of a US Marshals seizure of some sort. </div> <div> Well anyway thanks for the help. </div> <div> Jeremy</div> <bR> <div> Dear Jeremy: </div> <div> I've found this in the web: </div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="1" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="730" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="VOID" RULES="NONE" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 38 WIDTH="81"><div> 96.355</div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH="238"><div> UNIDENTIFIED; 36 ft. Vega 36 motorsailer</div> </tD> <tD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH="401"><div> Designer, William Garden; Design #437; Builder, Vega Marine Corp.; Date made after 1960</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <div> Web page is: <U>http://www.mysticseaport.org/library/manuscripts/coll/spcoll096/spcoll096.html</U> </div> <div> I hope this can be of help. </div> <div> Best regards, </div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>11.01.2005</B></div> <div> <B>Missing Australian Ketch.</B></div> <div> <B>Nicole Jones Major sends us this message:</B></div> <bR> <div> To whom it may concern,</div> <div> I am looking for an Australian vessel called 'Blue Laguna' or 'Blue Lagooner'. It supposedly is a ketch but now it could be a schooner. She is roughly 38 - 45 ft, she is totally wooden all over, has 2 wooden masts, a bowsprit, roughly 6 brass portholes along the hull in a blue stripe that runs the whole length of the hull. She was in excellent condition and is roughly 40 to 60 years old. The cabin is a creamy colour and besides the blue stripe in the hull the rest of the vessel is white. The name is on the stern with 'Australia' written underneath.</div> <div> I am pretty positive the name is 'Blue Laguna' or 'Blue Lagooner' but I could be wrong & she could have a name change by now in time. I am 100% positive the vessel has Australia written on the stern. The stern goes in on a 45 degree angle.</div> <bR> <div> I am looking for help in finding this vessel or anyone or any company / business that has come into contact with this vessel at anytime either 50 years ago or today. This vessel has been kept in an excellent condition right up until it was last seen in New Zealand waters in January 1998. I need the help of yachting experts/ builders that have great knowledge on wooden ketches & schooners, as this vessel is an Australian vintage  beauty but sadly part of a New Zealand tragedy involving 2 missing New Zealanders. I am researching / investigating this crime and I urgently need the help of some Australians that may know of this vessel or could help out some way. If you can't help with any knowledge even just telling your colleagues  and friends as this vessel has been around for 40 to 60 years. Some-one must know of this vessel some-where at some-time some-how. I'm pretty sure this vessel could have been used in illegal activities in the late 1990's. Also I would like to know the origins of this vessel from it's conception..What type of ketch it is and the history & who built her?</div> <bR> <div> I AM ENCLOSING IN THE ATTACHMENT A PICTURE OF THE VESSEL - THIS PICTURE  IS NOT A PHOTOGRAPH BUT A COMPUTERISED CREATION OF WHAT THIS VESSEL LOOKS LIKE- IT'S MOST CLOSE LIKENESS. The rigging and rope designs could be removed nowdays.</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="d7040c90.jpg" border=0 width="576" height="201" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> Who I am: I am party to a team of professionals seeking information regarding an unsolved crime and you have my complete assurance that my inquiry is legitimate regards to my research. If there is any information you can impart to me it will be greatly appreciated. If you have any knowledge at all on this vessel we will acknowledge ourselves to you in due course. As a part of this investigation any information you give me and how I receive it will be strictly confidential and will be treated in a professional manner at all times.</div> <bR> <div> Thanks for reading this,</div> <div> Kind Regards</div> <div> Nicole</div> <div> <B>nicole_jonesmajor_@hotmail.com</B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>30.12.2004</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="d5f222d0.jpg" border=0 width="34" height="45" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>The Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club mourns for the victims </B></div> <div> <B>of the devastating tsunami in the Indian Ocean.</B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>19.11.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From KOALA</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> ....we met LiLo in Bonifacio (Corse) in April 2002; they told us that they were planning to sail to Greece, to stay there for some time and then to sell LiLo. We exchanged our email addresses and phone numbers and we have been in contact for some time; at the beginning of year 2003 they told us that they were in Porto S. Stefano (in the Nothern Tirrenian Sea); after that date, we received no answer to our emails, and their cell phone seems to be disabled.</div> <div> A friend of us at the beginning of November has seen a Banjer in Aprilia Marittima, in the Northern  Adriatic Sea, with the same colors of Koala. He does not remember exactly the name. We plan to go to Aprilia and we will try to get in contact with that Banjer owners.</div> <div> Best wishes,</div> <bR> <div> <B>(25.12.04;  Note from the BMC: Thanks to another member we now know LILO's actual lying port)</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>01.10.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From Friend John Deacon (In BMC Guest book)</B></div> <div> j.deacon@terra.es<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <bR> <div> I had the great joy to crew a Banjer from Bordeaux to Cyprus (where I was then living and working for EMI) in June of 1970. The owner, a Canadian businessman (John Maclean?), had had extra equipment added to the boat in UK and a crew change became necessary at Bordeaux due to some electrical problems. A Norwegian and I brought the boat through the Canal du Midi ready to depart from Sete. We brought the boat, with the owner aboard, to Kyrenia where it lay for some while (the owner then being attached to the UNDP). Later, when the Turkish army invaded in 1974, an officer delegated some troops to seize her in Kyrenia harbour and sail her to Turkey. The owner never saw or heard of her again. </div> <bR> <div> I have always hoped to see another Banjer again but never did so but I was delighted to find your website. Happy memories indeed.</div> <bR> <div> John Deacon</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>15.07.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From Morten & Pia, in Denmark, looking for a Banjer</B></div> <bR> <div> Hi</div> <div> Next year we want to buy our own banjer 37. I would feel more safe to do this, by getting the best advise possible about buying, maintainance, tips etc. - and that must be here. My wife and me want to make our future Banjer 37 our home, but has anyone done this before? - and how can we get in touch with these people, and learn from there experience?</div> <div> We would like to buy the boat via the the "Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club" site, but can we advertise this on your site?</div> <div> Best regards</div> <div> Morten & Pia</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Morten & Pia:</div> <div> We are most glad to know about your intention of becoming members of the Banjer community.</div> <div> Banjers are wonderful boats, strong, sturdy and reliable. If a Banjer has been properly maintained, there should be no major problems, but I recommend you to ask for an independent survey of the boat you finally choose, because we have not to forget they are boats around 30 years old.</div> <div> Several of the BMC members do live aboard, altough many of them are difficult to contact, due to the fact they are travelling around. But some</div> <div> of them are contactable. A paradigmatic case is Mr. Brian Hull, in Papua New Guinea, who has lived for extended periods on board, keeps his boat in top condition and is a most friendly and nice man. I'm copying this message to him, for him to know about you.</div> <div> Whenever you decide to proceed with the purchase, please let me know, and I'll place an ad at our Buy & Sell web page. Let me tell you that the BMC doesn't involve itself in the process of buying-selling of the boats, all we do is inform through our web pages about who is interested in buying or selling. Then it's up to the parts.</div> <div> I wish you luck in your search for your Banjer and I look forward to receiving you soon as members of our Club.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>From Brian Hull to Morten & Pia:</B></div> <bR> <div> MORTEN & PIA,</div> <div> I HAVE OWNED MY BANJER "DUCK SOUP" SINCE 1984 & LIVED ABOARD SINCE 1986.</div> <div> I AM A REAL ESTATE AGENT BUT PREFER TO LIVE IN MY BOAT.</div> <div> WE HAVE A WONDERFUL MARINA & CLUB HOUSE (ROYAL PAPUA YACHT CLUB) IN THE CBD OF PORT MORESBY.</div> <div> BANJERS ARE VERY COMFORTABLE TO LIVE ABOARD FOR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE - THE AMOUNT OF ENJOYMENT ONE GETS FROM ONE'S BOAT IS INVERSE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ONBOARD.</div> <div> I HAVE CRUISED MORE THAN 60,000 NAUTICAL MILES, CROSSING OCEANS & COASTAL & RIVER PASSAGES & FOUND "DUCK SOUP" TO BE AN EXCEPTIONAL SEA BOAT.</div> <bR> <div> BANJERS ARE 50/50 MOTOR SAILORS & CAN BE USED EITHER AS MOTOR ASSISTED SAIL BOATS OR SAIL ASSISTED MOTOR BOATS - I ALWAYS USE THE LATTER MODE AS I LIKE MY COMFORTS SUCH AS REFRIGERATION, WATER MAKER, HOT WATER FOR MY SHOWER, BREAD MAKER, CONSTANT RUNNING INSTRUMENTS SUCH AS AUTO PILOT, RADAR, GPS, CHART PLOTTER, GAS DETECTOR, NAVIGATION LIGHTS & INTERNAL LIGHTS WHEN NECESSARY, ETC. ETC..</div> <bR> <div> GUILLERMO IS RIGHT - THESE BOATS ARE 30 YEARS OLD & YOU MUST CHECK FOR OSMOSIS, DRY ROT, THE ELECTRICAL WIRING, THE INTEGRITY OF THE CHAIN PLATES, THE INTEGRITY OF THE SEAL ON THE HATCHES, THE CONDITION OF THE ENGINE & DRIVE TRAIN, THE CONDITION OF THE SAILS ETC..</div> <bR> <div> UNLESS THE VESSEL HAS BEEN CONSTANTLY MAINTAINED & UPGRADED YOU MAY NEED DEEP POCKETS &/OR A LOT OF PERSONAL TIME, SKILLS & PATIENCE TO UPGRADE YOUR VESSEL.</div> <div> INITIALLY I PAID US$60,000 FOR "DUCK SOUP" & I ESTIMATE THAT OVER THE LAST 2O YEARS SHE HAS COST ALL UP US$2M.</div> <div> WHEN BUILT IN 1976/77, "DUCK SOUP" COST HER BELGIAN OWNERS UK97,000 POUNDS - A LOT OF MONEY AT THAT TIME.</div> <bR> <div> ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU LIKE & I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THEM. </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>15.07.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Christopher, in the UK, willing to know more about Banjers:</B></div> <bR> <div> .......... I do not own a Banjer, but would like to know more about them before eventually finding one to buy.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Christopher:</div> <div> You can find many useful information within our public web pages at <U>www.banjer37.net</U></div> <div> Banjers are strong, sturdy and reliable boats if properly maintained, although we have to take in account they are 30 years old boats. So I</div> <div> reccomend you an independent survey, in the case you finally decide to buy</div> <div> one. I'm copying this message to Colin Whimster, our BMC UK Delegate, for him to know about and your intentions. You can talk to him about Banjers and he'll probably may be of great help in advising you and even getting you in touch with some of the UK members around your area, so you can visit one of the boats.</div> <div> I think Colin is now cruising North Europe waters with his Banjer, so maybe he's not easily contactable. Just in case, I'm copying also this message to John ......, one of the UK members, to find out if he can be of help.</div> <div> Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.</div> <div> I look forward to receiving you soon as a new member of the BMC.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Again from Christopher:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo</div> <bR> <div> John........ phoned me today. I must say, you're damn fast!</div> <div> John has invited me for a sail on his boat, and I very much look forward to discovering more about Banjers.</div> <div> Good sailing</div> <div> Christopher Sandeman</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>02.06.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From new member MAGUS</B></div> <div> Banjer "Will o the Wisp" just passed through our little harbor, informing us of your club. We own & live aboard our beloved "Magus", Hull 50, built in 1971 according to her little brass plate. We bought her in 1985 from Jim Horowitz in North Palm Beach, Fl. She has taken us all through the eastern & Southern Caribbean ...... We like to think we''re aging gracefully together, Magus & us.</div> <div> We would like any information anyone may have about Magus''s earlier years.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>28.05.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Frederic Paquay, selling his motorsailer (Not a Banjer)  BALISTES</B></div> <div> Country: Belgium</div> <div> Telephone: 00 32 2 763 14 78</div> <div> E-mail: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><B>fred.paquay@skynet.be</B></FONT></div> <div> Comments: Private owner of a Dutch Steel Motorsailer. I have read your site with much interest. As my boat is now up for sale on the web through my own website (<B> </B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://users.skynet.be/cpt.paquay/" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://users.skynet.be/cpt.paquay/"><U><B><U>http://users.skynet.be/cpt.paquay/</U></B></U></A></FONT>) I keep receiving lots of questions from prospective buyers concerning the actual handling/use of a motorsailer.</div> <div> Would you mind if I made a link on my own site, directing prospective buyers to your site where they would find all the answers to their questions?</div> <div> Feel free to visit my site for full details of my motorsailer.</div> <div> Yours Cpt Paquay</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>10.05.2004</B></div> <div> <B>More from the Secretary:</B></div> <bR> <div> Antilope is now in Narbonne. I left Port Bou after a windy week, waves up to 10 meters, complete new for them around there. I went to Port La Nouvell through the Golf du Lion, to enter there after a day the Canal de La Roubine, to pass Beziers ( Via canal du Midi - lovely route with nice locks, aquaduct and tunnel, also a nine locks area). Unfortunally the channel is not the deep as described in the books so I had to return. It is regular 1.50/1.60 while 1.80 was told. Also the channel is not 3.50 under bridges but 3.30. It was raining and bad weather. It was not the south of France I knew. But we will survive. </div> <div> We returned to Holland, to come back later. I will then sail to Sete to enter the Rhone. In the mean time I will order a spare part for my vetus waterlocksystem. It broke down and is bringing exhaust water into my boat. </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>19.04.2004</B></div> <div> <B>FROM BMC Secretary, sailing back from Mediterranean to Belgium:</B></div> <bR> <div> Last week I came from Denia, via Valencia, Barcelona, L'Estartit, on my way to Port St. Louis du Rhone, with my Banjer Antilope. Finanly I was facing a very strong Mistral. After passing the Golf de Rosas and Cabo Cruz, the weather conditions at that time, 7 to 8 bft, waves 2 to 3 meters, did not create a good foundation for completing this trip and finish it at Port st Louis du Rhone. Antilope is now in Port Bou, the first (for me the last) marina in Spain. I already delayed my start in Denia for four days, due to same kind of wheater conditions in that area. </div> <div> Next week I will try again . This time only by motor. While the masts and sails are down, I then will sail via Port Nouvell and Sete to Camarque, to enter there somewhere the channel. Antilope is now ready and prepared to enter the area of Rhone, Saone and french channel via Lyon, to go back to Belgium / Antwerp.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>11.02.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Antonette:</B></div> <bR> <div> Banjer <B>Vaya con Dios </B>is for sale at de Valk Yachtbroker in Bruinisse Holland.... <B>Lisana</B> is.....and <B>Atalanta</B> is for sale at brokers Hetterschijt in Willemstad, Holland</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the BMC</B></div> <div> Dear Antonette:</div> <div> Thank you very much for your kind information.</div> <div> "Lisana" has already become a member of the Banjer Club, and we are waiting news from the future owners of "Atalanta" and "Vaya con Dios". Anyhow we would like very much to receive the actual members of these two boats as members, until they sell their Banjers (There is a free membership available to all Banjer owners), just to have the Banjers properly listed at the Club's records, but we were not able to get info from the brokers about them. Let's be patient...</div> <div> We appreciate very much your help and interest in Banjers.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>29.01.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From member DUCKSOUP in PNG.</B></div> <bR> <div> DEAR GUILLERMO,<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <bR> <div> .....LAST FRIDAY 23/01 2004, I RETURNED TO PORT MORESBY AFTER 41 DAYS TRAVELLING VIA THE GREAT BARRIER REEF TO CAIRNS IN FAR NORTH QUEENSLAND FOR CHRISTMAS & NEW YEAR - WE TOOK NINE DAYS TO GET TO CAIRNS AS WE HAD SE HEAD WINDS & SHELTERED FOR FOUR DAYS - THREE WEEKS IN CAIRNS BEING TOURISTS & BUYING EQUIPMENT & CATCHING UP WITH FRIENDS & FAMILY - THEN FOLLOWED THE COAST TO THE TOP OF THE CONTINENT OF AUSTRALIA IN NE HEAD WINDS - FOR A FEW DAYS WE RESTED & CAUGHT UP WITH FRIENDS IN THURSDAY ISLAND THEN SET OFF AGAIN IN SE HEAD WINDS FOR PORT MORESBY WINDING OUR WAY THRU THE LAST OF THE GREAT BARRIER REEF ARRIVING HOME FORTY DAYS LATER....<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <bR> <div> ....WE COVERED APPROXIMATELY TWO THOUSAND MILES MOST OF WHICH WAS TO WINDWARD - WE AVERAGED ONE LITRE PER MILE 0R LESS - ALL EQUIPMENT INCLUDING MECHANICAL REFRIGERATION, ALTERNATOR & COMPUTER PERFORMED WITHOUT A HITCH - CHANGED TWO FUEL FILTERS & TIGHTENED BELTS ON ALTERNATOR ON ONE OCCASION ONLY.<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> OVER THE WHOLE 41 DAYS WE DID NOT ENCOUNTER ANOTHER CRUISING YACHT EXCEPT TIED UP IN MARINAS IN CAIRNS & PORT DOUGLAS & ONE YACHT RETURNING TO AUSTRALIA WHICH WAS ANCHORED IN COOKTOWN...<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>26.01.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From Seahorse Marine friends.</B></div> <bR> <div> A Happy, Lucky, Healthy </div> <div> and Wealthy Year of the Monkey !<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> (From Jan 22, 04 to Early Feb 05.) </div> <div> <I>From</I><FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> <I>The Seahorse Marine Team</I><FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> <U>www.SeahorseYachts.com</U></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>16.01.2004</B></div> <div> <B>From member GROS BALOO</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="9b52fbc0.png" border=0 width="303" height="444" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>22.12.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Mike McGinley:</B></div> <bR> <div> Comments: searching for Skip Elias, Villanova University classmate 1971 via e-mail. He was featured on your side on the Por Vida down around Tonga in 1994. If located ask him to please contact me re: Villanova e-mail loop.</div> <div> Thanks</div> <div> Email: <B>mcginlm@lmsd.org</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>05.12.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Ann Miller, ex Banjer owner and BMC member</B></div> <div> I give you my heartfelt gratitude to have allowed me to participate in the Banjer Club....We have now sold our beloved Banjer due to my husband's poor health. We very much appreciate the help given to us by allowing us to advertise in your Trading Place. Thank you so much for your help. We now have an empty dock in Florida and would welcome anyone who wishes to dock for a night or two.<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Again our heartfelt thanks,<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Ann Miller</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>03.12.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Tom Hewitt, looking for a Banjer</B></div> <div> My wife and I would like to buy a Banjer 37 -preferably in the UK, but would be willing to travel to Netherlands or elsewhere in Northern Europe to view. This summer we saw the Banjer 'Tahelia' ... in west Wales. We liked the look of her very much and so our search has started!</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>30.10.2003</B></div> <div> More from Adrian Daley:</div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> Thanks very much for your prompt reply to my e mail. I really appreciate your help. Let me explain a little about our family interest in Mujaji.</div> <div> In 1968, my father....bought a Nicholson 32 called Chevin and my mother and father had some wonderful sailing with her until she was sold in 1971 for a new Sovereign 35 ketch. She was also called Chevin....(My parents) took her all over Europe. They sailed her down to the Med and explored the coast of Spain, France and Italy before returning through the Canal du Midi back to the UK.</div> <div> In 1979/1980.... (my father) decided that he would like to sell Chevin to buy a motor sailer. He put Chevin on the market with Ancaster Marine who told him about a Banjer they were selling called Mujaji. If I recall correctly, she had been exhibited at the London Boat Show a few years previously. She was owned by the owner of Necco Marine who manufactured marine instruments (logs, echo sounders etc). I believe the owners name was Mr Bowman but I cannot be sure. One thing was certain. We all fell in love with Mujaji.</div> <div> She was a dream boat and so... (my father) negotiated to buy her. I remember that after the survey, the surveyor discovered osmosis so she was taken out of the water in Gosport and her hull was dried out and treated as part of the deal. So it was that my father now owned two yachts! Eventually, Chevin was sold to a Canadian who sailed her in appalling weather back to Canada but that is another story.</div> <div> My father had an ambition to sail up the North sea coast and then into the Baltic. Mujaji was the perfect yacht to do this. In 1882, they moved her to a mooring in St Mawes in Cornwall and they spent the summer preparing her for the Baltic cruise. My wife and I with our (then) two small boys had a wonderful family holiday in Cornwall and I have photo's of my two sons, Thomas aged 5 and Charles aged 3 at the helm!</div> <div> In the Spring of 1983... (my parents) set sail for the Baltic. They cruised slowly along the coast of France and Belgium and by June had reached Brouwershaven.....</div> <div> By late October 1983 (almost exactly 20 years ago)...(we returned)...to Brouwershaven..... We were helped by a wonderful family called Fa Gebr Van Ast of Zuidal at Brouwershaven. They owned a dry yacht storage facility and agreed to take Mujaji out of the water and to store her......we asked them if they could also try to find a buyer for her.... In early1984, I learned that Dr Weiss, also a lawyer from Dusseldorf was</div> <div> interested in Mujaji and so I flew to Dusseldorf and agreed to sell her.</div> <div> I soon lost contact with Dr Weiss but whenever we travel since then, whenever we are near the sea, we are always on the lookout for Mujaji as she was such a wonderful yacht and holds many memories. I do not believe we  have any of our old records but I have asked my mother (who is now 81 years old) and she is looking to see if she has any old files. Mujaji was ketch rigged with twin foresails and a bowsprit. She had a Perkins marine diesel.</div> <div> We do have some photos of her which I could copy and perhaps e mail.....</div> <div> With kind regards</div> <div> Adrian Daley</div> <bR> <div> <B>Note from the BMC: </B></div> <div> We were able to identify MUJAJI. It's number 91 from 1976 and is owned nowadays by a BMC member, under another name.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>20.10.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Adrian.</B></div> <div> My family owned Banjer ''Mujaji'' until 1983. She was registered in the UK but we sold her to a German gentleman called Dr Weiss and I have</div> <div> no idea where she is now. I would love to know what has happened to her. I may even be interested in buying her if she ever came up for sale.</div> <div> Any information relating to Mujaji would be appreciated.</div> <div> Adrian Daley</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the BMC</B></div> <div> Dear Adrian,</div> <div> Thanks a lot for your contact and information about MUJAJI.</div> <div> At the time being we don´t know where she is, but we'll try to track her with the name of Mr. Weiss among our members (We'll locate an ad within the private site of the Club), and we'll let you know if we find something. We'll also publish your message into "Banjers&Friends" and "Letters" pages within the BMC's public site, <U>www.banjer37.net</U>, to spread the word and find out if there is somebody else who can help.....</div> <div> We  wish you the best of lucks with your search of Banjer MUJAJI.</div> <div> Kindest regards,</div> <div> BMC.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>01.10.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From proud BRIGHTEYES owners</B></div> <div> Banjer "Brighteyes" has also been updated and her very long refit has been finished at last - it only took 23 months against the forecast of 6 months! We did all the work ourselves so there's no one to blame - although we did have the hull shot blasted by a contractor (it took all of 4 hours). </div> <div> But she is now repainted, rewired, retanked (water and diesel) and totally refitted inside and out. There are new rubbing strakes, bulwark caps, bowsprit, hatches, alternators and charging systems, headlinings, soft trim, all floors and bearers. There are also a lot of bruises and spilt blood and tired owners! </div> <div> There are also 2 new masts and booms, courtesy of the Travelhoist operators who managed to hit us, just before launch' and break a forward lower shroud which caused the mainmast to fold. The original gold anodised mast could not be matched so the insurers agreed to renewing both although it did add about 7 weeks to our lunch date. </div> <div> The eventual launch went well - yes you can get 22 people on board for a party - and the 'maiden' voyage was to Fowey, Cornwall (about 30km) where she will spend the winter before returning to the Med in 2004. </div> <div> Was it worth it? Yes! Would we do it again? No, no, no!! </div> <div> Best wishes to all Banjer owners and lovers </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="919dda60.jpg" border=0 width="221" height="166" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>20.08.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Charles Curtis, in USA:</B></div> <div> In the next two to three years I plan to upgrade myself. I saw your Banjer 37 and would like some more information . I plan on port hopping on the east coast of the U.S. and she looks like the perfect boat.</div> <div> Have a great day !</div> <div> Charlie</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Charles,</div> <div> Thanks for your contact through our web pages. We are delighted to know about your intention of purchasing a Banjer. Banjers are great boats, perfect to port hopping along the coast, precisely what most of BMC members do. They are heavy boats, strongly built and, if properly maintained, able to last for another 30 years. They are no racers at at all, but they provide pleasant and "forgiving" sailings, although with some tendency to roll in quarter seas. This is minimized with the use of sails, being the motion more comfortable with a tall rig.</div> <div> We have several members in the East coast of the USA (Boston, Maryland, Massachusets, North Carolina, Vermont & Florida) and maybe there could exist the possibility of arranging with one of them to show you the boat and maybe even a sailing day. If you are interested I can contact some of them and find out about their availability. If so, please tell me what could be the most convenient location for you.</div> <div> I look forward to hearing more from you and, hopefully, receive you as a member of our Club.</div> <div> Best regards.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>18.07.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From our Member of the Board, Tom Zwijnenberg:</B></div> <div> .....I discovered for sale in Willemstad the ATALANTA and in Noordschans KATHARINA from Hamburg...</div> <bR> <div> From BMC:  May anybody help us to get in contact with owners or vendors? </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>16.06.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Mathieu Mathelin, in France.</B></div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fd0ef990.jpg" border=0 width="239" height="153" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <div> Hello,</div> <div> I just recognised my former boat on your site.</div> <div> The third photo, the one on the right from your "which one are these" photos.</div> <div> It was named : "Le Resolu" and I don''t know if he still has this name.</div> <div> To make a long story short it was my grandfather''s boat I was almost born on it. You can imagine how I loved that boat. My grand father had to sell it, and I just can''t say how sorry I am.</div> <div> Anyway I believe the boat is in Port Grimaud in the south of France.</div> <div> Congratulations for your site that brought up so many wonderfull memories to me.</div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Mathieu Mathelin</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the BMC</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Mathieu Mathelin, </div> <div> Thanks a lot for your entry into our pages and kind words. </div> <div> We appreciate very much the information about "Le Resolu" and we are glad to learn about your love for this Banjer. Most of the Banjer owners feel the same about our beloved boats. </div> <div> We'll investigate to find out the actual name and owner of "Le Resolu". As soon as we find out, with the permission of her owner, for sure, we'll let you know. Do you remember her hull number? That should be of great help.</div> <div> We are honoured to consider you as a "Banjer Friend" and look forward to keeping with you a long and friendly relationship. </div> <div> Warmest regards on behalf of all of the BMC members. </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Mathieu Mathelin again:</B></div> <bR> <div> Thank you so much for the quickness of your answer.</div> <div> I definitely look forwards to be one of yours "again" some day.</div> <bR> <div> Regards,</div> <bR> <div> Mathieu Mathelin</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>12.06.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Stefan Bodin, in Germany:</B></div> <bR> <div> ...Excuse me, but where can I buy these loveley ships?</div> <div> ...Can you help me?</div> <bR> <div> Best regards from Germany</div> <div> Stefan Bodin</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the BMC:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Mr. Bodin:</div> <div> Thanks for your kind entry into our pages.</div> <div> You can find at our site's "Trading Area" page, the Banjers we know are actually for sale. Please go to: <U>http://members.tripod.com/banjer37msclub/trading.htm</U> </div> <div> Maybe there you'll find a Banjer waiting for you.</div> <div> We look forward to hearing from you again.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.04.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Gilles Vergnes, in France</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo, </div> <div> ...To put on <U>banjer37.net:</U> You can buy the collection of books ( 15 books) "NAUTICUS Encyclopédie pratique du bateau Sous la direction de Gérard Borg".It remain some exemplarys. The cost of this encyclopedia is 75 euros at:  </div> <div> Librairie Nautique La Zigzagodromie </div> <div> 29 quai Saint-Antoine </div> <div> 69002 LYON </div> <div> FRANCE </div> <div> tel/fax (33) 04 78 37 42 33 </div> <div> e mail <U>lazigzagodromie@wanadoo.fr</U> </div> <div> site http//lazigzagodromie.fr </div> <div> Best regards </div> <div> Gilles</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>06.04.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Peter Barc, in Portugal</B></div> <bR> <div> I am Keen on Fisher motorsailors but after spending time on this site I have to admit that I could and maybe be converted to a Banjerman, they sound very good seaboats to me, keep up the good work and regards to all.</div> <div> Peter Barc (Merchant navy captain, UK)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>15.03.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Darren Skrzypek, in Spain.</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello, I wanna ask you for help, I thought you might gave it to me.</div> <div> I'm interested in buying a boat, my first boat, I was looking for a boat that I could feel as in home in it, and I think that I found one.</div> <div> First I didn't know that it was a BANJER, I should remind you my lack of experience in this field, I'm a beginer, but I contacted the owner of the boat and went to see it. I just love it, it is just what I want.</div> <div> But now I am in the most dificult part of the deal, at least for me it is, The price.</div> <div> He told me that the price for it is 75.000euros, Iknow that there is a lot to look in a boat like this to see if it is or not a fare price, bur If you can gave me a rought clue, it will help me.</div> <div> The boat has not being out of the water for 3 years, to my eyes it looks solid and with no visible problems, but as I discovered here in this web site, it is a special boat and I think it needs special considerations.</div> <div> I'll apreciate very much any help you might gave me.</div> <bR> <div> Till then, thanks.</div> <div> Darren Skrzypek</div> <bR> <div> <B>BMC's answer</B> (Darren happened to understand spanish)</div> <bR> <div> Estimado amigo Darren:</div> <div> Nos encanta que te hayas enamorado de un BANJER. Eso es exactamente lo que nos ha pasado a todos los actuales miembros del Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club. Me gustaría saber cual es el nombre de ese Banjer en particular, para ver si tenemos alguna in formación sobre él y poder darte una mejor orientación sobre el precio. En cualquier caso puedes visitar nuestra página "Trading Area" en <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>http://members.tripod.com/banjer37msclub/trading.htm</U></FONT> Allí tienes una orientación sobre los precios que se están pidiendo por otras unidades.</div> <div> Una unidad original, bien mantenida, sí podría valer los 75.000 Euros que te piden, e incluso más. Una unidad original con pobre mantenimiento, pues puede estar en los 50.000 y si no es original, es decir que sólo es el casco y cubierta, y el interior ha sido hecho de forma amateur con poco cuidado, incluso menos. En fin, que la variedad es grande y para poder opinar más atinadamente sobre el caso concreto del Banjer que estás pretendiendo comprar, tendríamos que tener más información sobre él.</div> <div> Nos encantaría saber más de tí y de ese Banjer.</div> <div> Un saludo muy cordial.</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>05.02.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Richard Treanor, in USA</B></div> <div> Name: Richard Treanor</div> <bR> <div> Email: <B>ustwo@cox.net</B></div> <bR> <div> Comments: I am trying to buy a motorsailer, but not a Banjer37, since I am not in that price range. A Fisher 30, etc is all that I can afford.</div> <div> I am seeking info on smaller motorsailers, specifically the Dartsailer 27. Do you think any of your members might be able to help me? I noticed that owners of other motorsailers have contacted your member site and made comments.</div> <bR> <div> The Dartsailers have a member association, but all of it is in Dutch. Wish I spoke Dutch, but... Only speak English so can not interpret some of the information on the Dartsailer site. I am interested in pursuing the purchase of a Dartsailer 27 or other smaller motorsailer on the West Coast</div> <div> of USA. The broker representing the Dartsailer 27 does not have any real info on the spec''s. Does not know the sail area or the mast height or the LWL. He only knows the ballast, LOA and beam. I therefore can''t calculate any performance characteristics.</div> <bR> <div> Would like to know the above info as well as the design criteria for the Dartsailer. I have looked at some Fishers 30''s and would be pleased if the Dartsailer handled as well as the Fisher. My only displeasure regarding the Fishers 30''s was its small and cramped pilothouse. I want a motrsailer that I will feel comfortable with lounging about at anchor or marina when the weather turns cooler. The Fisher 30 does not fit that criteria, although the Fisher 31 with its larger pilothouse does offer that characteristic. The Dartsailer appears to also have that feature.</div> <bR> <div> But how does the Dartsailer perform under sail and power? The Dartsailer with its 51 HP Perkins vs the Fisher''s 35 to 39 HP and lighter displacement of 11000 vs 14560 for the Fisher should power well. But why does the Dartsailer have 7000 lbs of ballast for 11000 displacement vs Fisher''s 6000 for 14520? Why so much ballast?</div> <bR> <div> How does it perform under sail or power and what other information might you share to help me make a decision?</div> <bR> <div> Thanks,</div> <div> Dick Treanor </div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from BMC Commodore</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Dick,</div> <div> Thanks for your contact and questions. Unfortunately I cannot answer them, because I have no info about the Dartsailer.</div> <div> Anyhow I suggest you to write to the Dartsailer Club (<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>Dartsailer@chello.nl</U></FONT> ) and put your questions to them. As far as I remember the founder is able to understand and write english.</div> <div> Best regards and good luck.</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>17.01.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From  Teun de Vries</B></div> <bR> <div> ....Dear Sirs/Madams, I would like to know the cruising speed and the Range (with a Perkins 6 cyl. diesel)of a Banjer 37.</div> <div> Thanks for helping me out.</div> <bR> <div> Regards Teun de Vries</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from BMC:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Teun de Vries.</div> <bR> <div> Thanks for your entry and question. Here the answers I know:</div> <div> Fuel tanks capacity should be around 900 lts.</div> <div> You should expect a cruising speed no higher of 8 - 8,5 knots under power, because of the heavy displacement hull forms.</div> <div> Fuel consumption about 10 lts/h with 8 - 8,5 knots RPM 1.800 : 6 lts/h with 6 - 7 knots RPM 1.500</div> <bR> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>05.01.2003</B></div> <div> <B>From Ron Jacobs, in the UK.</B></div> <bR> <div> Greetings and a happy new year</div> <div> I am planning to change from motor to motor sail later this year and although I like the look and roominess of the nauticats, seaworthiness and good motion are more important than anything else as it is just myself and my wife. Also, the more I understand about these type of boats, and given that we live on the East Coast of England so a deep draft is a handicap, the more the Banjer seems to be the ideal boat.</div> <div> However my big concern is their age and whether major problems occur with them and what to look for. I am sure many people must have asked this question so I was wondering if you knew of something that collected all the wisdom about Banjer problems together that could be sent to me. I thought of joining the Banjer club to find out this information from existing owners but they must be fed up with people asking similar questions.</div> <div> Regards.</div> <div> Ron</div> <bR> <div> <B>From BMC:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Ron,</div> <div> Thank you very much for your contact and interest in Banjers.</div> <div> Banjers are pretty good motorsailers, tough and reliable, and easy to fall in love with. Their motorsailing performance is excellent and, although heavy boats with full bows, the tall rigged ones sail quite well, beeing able to attain respectable speeds.</div> <div> As many classic motorsailers they tend to roll somewhat if they have short rigs, but much less with tall rigs. Banjers are around 30 years old. As the basic construction is very strong and sturdy, if you look for a well maintained one, you may have a boat for another 30 years to come, at least. There are some nice examples for sale at our site's "Trading Area" page.</div> <div> I'm passing your message to Colin Whimster, BMC Delegate in UK. He owns SULASGEIR and has sailed her extensively, so he may give you a direct and more precise information about Banjer's behaviour and maintenance issues....</div> <div> I hope to have been of help. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.</div> <div> Good luck in your search for your motorsailer. I look forward to having the pleasure of receiving you as a member of the BMC soon.</div> <div> Regards.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Ron Jacobs again:</B></div> <bR> <div> Many thanks for such a quick reply, your comments are very helpful. I will be trying to getto see one of those for sale in the near future.</div> <div> Thanks again</div> <div> Ron</div> <bR> <div> <B>From BMC's UK Delegate:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Ron</div> <div>  </div> <div> By all means give me a ring about Banjers. I am no expert but have taken Sulasgeir from the west coast here in Scotland to Shetland, through the canals to the Med and back and right round Ireland. They are great boats for making journeys in but not much fun for sailing round the buoys!......</div> <div> Regards  </div> <div> Colin.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>24.12.2002</B></div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fd23ae80.png" border=0 width="314" height="232" ALIGN="LEFT" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <div> On behalf of the Krammer Motor Sailer Club we wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. And let us all hope that<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT>next season we experience a lot of days as shown on the picture.<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Regards<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Jan van Beek </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>20.12.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Terry Skeans:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hi, </div> <div> I sold my Catboat and am now thinking about the Motorsailer. I'm just now trying to find some information on them. Beside this site. Could you please tell me of some sites of Motorsailer Owners and Sites on Motorsailers. Merry Christmas and Thanks In Advance. Terry</div> <bR> <div> <B>BMC answer:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Terry, </div> <div> Try the following: </div> <div> <U>http://rogger.net</U> </div> <div> <U>http://members.home.nl/krammer/</U> </div> <div> <U>http://www.nauticatownersgroup.com/</U> </div> <div> <U>http://www.cheoyleeassociation.com/Owners/motorsailorowners.htm</U> </div> <div> <U>http://www.seahorseyachts.com/</U> </div> <div> <U>http://home.tiscali.nl/xp157534/DARTSAILER/</U> </div> <div> <U>http://home.wanadoo.nl/fisherclub/</U> </div> <bR> <div> Best regards </div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell </div> <div> Banjer37 Motorsailer Club </div> <div> Commodore </div> <bR> <div> <B>Terry again:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hey Guillermo, </div> <div> Thanks so much for taking the time to help me out. I really appreciate it. I will check all of these out and looking for to owning my first Motorsailer. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year. Terry </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>28.11.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From member DUCKSOUP</B></div> <bR> <div> GUILLERMO,</div> <div> THIS MORNING I TOOK DUCK SOUP TO OUR WORK BERTH TO HAVE SOME PAINT WORK TOUCHED UP.</div> <div> WHILST THERE I TOOK THE TWO ATTACHED PHOTOS WHICH SHOW HOW I AIR-CONDITION DUCK SOUP DURING THE HOT SUMMER MONTHS NOVEMBER THRU MARCH.</div> <div> THE AIRCONDITIONER IS A MARINE VERSION AIRCOMMAND MANUFACTURED IN ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA.</div> <div> ORIGINALLY THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR RETROFIT ON CAMPERVANS,CARAVANS,TRUCKS & BUSSES ETC..</div> <div> THEY ARE WIDELY USED IN AUSTRALIA ON FISHING BOATS ESPECIALLY THE HIGHSPEED CRAYFISHING FLEET IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA.</div> <div> I AM SURE SIMILAR UNITS ARE MANUFACTURED IN EUROPE & THE USA.</div> <div> THE CENTRAL HATCH ON DUCK SOUP IS A GOIOT DOUBLE ACTION VERSION & THE HATCH COVER IS VERY SIMPLE TO REMOVE. WITH SOME FEW MODIFICATIONS IT NOW TAKES ONLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO MOUNT OR DEMOUNT.</div> <div> MY AIRCON IS A 240 VOLT VERSION, 5000 BTU.,COOLING ONLY, HOWEVER FOR SLIGHTLY MORE MONEY A MODEL WITH REVERSE CYCLE HEATING CAN BE OBTAINED.</div> <div> SHOULD ANY ONE BE INTERESTED IN THE AIRCOMMAND, THE EASIEST WAY TO GET INFORMATION IS TO GO INTO GOOGLE SEARCH, TYPE IN AIRCOMMAND AIRCONDITIONERS & UP COMES THE SITE ADDRESS.</div> <div> THE UNIT HAS NO PROBLEM RUNNING ON A GENERATOR WHEN CRUISING HOWEVER SINCE REMOVING MY GENSET I NO LONGER HAVE THIS LUXURY - ONLY WHEN ALONGSIDE IN A MARINA.</div> <div> FROM THESE PHOTOS YOU WILL ALSO NOTE HOW I USE SPRAY DODGERS ON THE RAIL FOR PRIVACY WHILE LIVING ON THE MARINA.</div> <div> ALSO HOW THE FORWARD CANOPY NEATLY ROLLS UP AGAINST THE MAST ALLOWING ONE TO TRAVEL WITH THE MAIN & COCKPIT CANOPIES IN PLACE. </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.11.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From BMC Commodore, Guillermo Gefaell</B></div> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <TABLE BORDER="2" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="450" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 110 ><NOBR><div> <IMG SRC="fd465430.png" border=0 width="101" height="67" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">         <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://www.gestenaval.com/id37.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.gestenaval.com/id37.htm"><U><IMG SRC="fd67c4b0.jpg" border=0 width="124" height="75" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></U></A></FONT>            <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" ><IMG SRC="fd7324b0.png" border=0 width="50" height="75" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"> </FONT></div> <div> Galicia mourns with Prestige's fuel contamination</div> </NOBR></tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>21.11.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Van Taiariol, in USA</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Sirs,</div> <bR> <div> I read on your site that you were looking for boat Island Rover. Well I found it! I was on Vacation last week in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico and there she was. The boat was bought by a Canadian named William. We had a nice chat, and he gave me a tour of the boat. This is his first boat and will no sailing experience he headed south from Canada all the way to Mexico. A testment to William''s courage and the Banjer design!</div> <div> The boat is in good conditon and Willam had no major problems all the way down. </div> <div> He plans on joining your club, but is now  E-mail-less. </div> <div> Regards,</div> <bR> <div> Van Taiariol</div> <div> Redwood City Ca. USA</div> <bR> <div> Thanks a lot, Van Taiariol! We are most grateful and we look forward to receive William as a member soon.</div> <div> BMC.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>07.10.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From member DUCKSOUP to Jean Luc Lecoque </B>(See more about this downwards here)</div> <bR> <div> JEAN LUC,</div> <div> LES ANGLAIS TOUJOURS LES ANGLAIS.............................</div> <div> I APOLOGISE FOR NOT RESPONDING IN FRENCH & FOR NOT RESPONDING SOONER. DUCK SOUP IS HULL NUMBER 94 & BUILT AS A TRANSOCEANIQUE VERSION IN ENGLAND FOR A BELGIAN - A MR TURSCH.</div> <div> I CAN FLY EITHER A YANKEE OR GENOA JIB ON THE FORESTAY, A STAYSAIL JIB ON THE INNER FORESTAY, A MAINSAIL ON THE MAIN MAST & A MIZZEN SAIL ON THE MIZZEN MAST. IN ADDITION I HAVE AN ASYMMETRICAL SPINNAKER (GENNEKA) FOR BOTH THE MAIN & MIZZEN MASTS AS WELL AS A MIZZEN STAYSAIL.</div> <div> MOST OF MY WEEKEND BOATING IS DONE UNDER POWER BECAUSE IT IS MY TIME FOR REST. WHEN PASSAGE MAKING I TEND TO MOTOR SAIL - STICKING TO A RHUMB LINE & THEN HOISTING & ADJUSTING SAILS TO SUIT THE CONDITIONS - THIS CAN REDUCE MY FUEL CONSUMPTION BY HALF OF THAT WHEN USED AS A PURE POWERBOAT.</div> <div> YESTERDAY, BEING A BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY WITH GENTLE WINDS BETWEEN 10 - 15 KNOTS JUST FORWARD OF THE BEAM I UNFURLED MY GENOA & SAILED THE 7 MILES TO DESTINATION AT BETWEEN 3-4 KNOTS HULL SPEED. SIMILAR CONDITIONS ON THE RETURN & I FLEW MY MULTI PURPOSE SPINNAKER ACHIEVING A HULL SPEED OF BETWEEN 4-5 KNOTS - ALL MY CANOPIES APART FROM THE FORWARD CANOPY REMAINED IN PLACE & I DID NOT USE EITHER MAINSAIL OR MIZZEN NOR THE STAYSAIL. </div> <div> I CARRY 140M OF CHAIN IN THE CHAIN LOCKER & UNDER THE GRATING IN THE FORWARD SAIL LOCKER UNDER THE BUNK. IN THE SALOON UNDER THE BUNKS ON EITHER SIDE I HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF 4 X 200A/H SONNENSCHEIN BATTERIES.</div> <div> THE ENGINE IS A PHYSICALLY LARGE & HEAVY HRWM6 LISTER DIESEL. ON EITHER SIDE DOWN LOW, JUST AFT OF THE AFT ENGINE ROOM BULKHEAD I CARRY 10 X 20KG OF LEAD INGOTS.</div> <div> FUEL IS APPROXIMATELY 1200 LITRES.</div> <div> WATER ALSO 1200 LITRES.</div> <div> M. BORG STATES THE TRANS OCEANIQUE DISPLACES 12.5 TONNES 4 TONNE OF WHICH IS BALLAST - DUCKSOUP WEIGHS NEARLY 20 TONNE ON A TRAVE LIFT.</div> <div> I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE ABOVE PREAMBLE AS I THINK THAT THERE IS MORE BALLAST IN CONCRETE IN THE TRANSOCEANIQUE THAN IN THE SHORTER RIGGED BANJERS. I HAVE CONCRETE UNDER THE SETTEES ON BOTH THE PORT & STARBOARD SIDES IN THE SALOON AS WELL AS IN THE FULL LENGTH OF THE KEEL - DO THE SHORT RIGGED BANJERS ALSO HAVE THIS CONCRETE IN THE SALOON?</div> <div> YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE DIMENSIONS OF MASTS & SAILS FROM THE WEB SITE. HOWEVER IF THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE MEASUREMENTS FOR YOU.</div> <div> SETTING UP THE BOWSPRIT & ROLLERS, BOB STAY & WHISKER STAYS ETC WILL BE TIME CONSUMING & EXPENSIVE.</div> <div> DOES THE BOAT SAIL WELL? - YES IT DOES FOR A TRADITIONAL FULL KEEL KETCH THAT IT IS.</div> <div> CAN IT COMPETE SPEED WISE WITH A MODERN SAIL BOAT TO WINDWARD? - NEVER!  IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF MONEY, TIME, LOVE & FRUSTRATION TO DO THIS CONVERSION</div> <div> - IS IT WORTH IT? - ONLY YOU CAN DECIDE! </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>07.10.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From R. Pasqualin, in Brazil</B></div> <bR> <div> Hi</div> <div> I want to know if there are available plans from this beatiful boat. I want to build by myself a motorsiler.</div> <div> Regards</div> <div> Raul</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Dear Mr. Pasqualin:</div> <div> Thank you for your entry in our pages and your interest in the Banjer 37. We are sorry but we do not have construction drawings for the Banjer 37, because we are just an Owners Association and not the builder, who went out of business a long time ago. We only have some General Arrangement drawings, and Lines Plans taken from old leaflets. You can find a sample of what we have at our "History/Techs" page in <U>www.banjer37.net</U>. If you are interested we may send to you a paper copy of some of those leaflets.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>04.10.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From BMC member to Jean Luc Lecocq  </B>(see downwards in this page...)</div> <bR> <div> Dear Jean Luc,</div> <div> I........ have a bowsprit of 1,5 meter, a genoa of 30m2 and a light halfwinder (gennaker) of 65m2. </div> <div> Sailing performance is ok. From 15 knots up, we can make at least 5 knots, not pointing too high. Also, if the sheets are trimmed perfectly, the boat sails herself without automatic steering. With 20 knots of wind, you can make 6 knots. High winds are no problem either. I carry genoa, mainsail, mizzen up to 25-30 knots of wind. Very comfortable too. Our rule is: never less that 5 knots speed, in that case I switch on the Engine (6 cil. Perkins, 100 Hp) at abt. 1000/1200 revs. You hardly hear the engine and motorsailing is a delight. </div> <div> Hope this will help you making your choice. But....always go for the ocean going version (bowsprit, tall rig). </div> <div> Happy sailing, </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.09.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Richard Roberts, in the UK</B></div> <bR> <div> Email: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>Richard@Sirisdigital.com</U></FONT></div> <div> Comments: Hi, we used to own a Banjer in 1972 until 1980.....She was an Aft cabin Banjer and she had a new helm seat fitted. Her name was "Alne Wanderer" and then, when she was sold, she was re-named "Bobreaka II" - I think that is how it was spelt.</div> <div> Can anyone help me find her? We are intersted in buying her back! or a similar Banjer. </div> <div> We are in the UK.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.09.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Jean Luc Lecocq, in France.</B></div> <bR> <div> Email: <B>claudelecocq@hotmail.com</B></div> <div> Comments: I would like information on the performance of the transoceanic version. Where is it possible to find the modifications to transform a classical banjer into a transoceanic one?</div> <div> Thank you </div> <div> JLL</div> <div> (Redaction's note: Jean Luc is looking for a suitable motorsailer for his planned trips to North Europe)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>12.08.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Hans Stromberg, developing an association for the owners of Dartmotorsailors</B></div> <bR> <div> banjer club </div> <div> ik lees en bezoek uw site regelmatig ik vind hem zeer provi en zeer goed verzorgd </div> <div> ik ben zelf nu na lang af wegen in het bezit van een 38 ftn dart sailer die zeer goed bevalt. </div> <div> de banjer heeft altijd boven aan mijn verlang lijst gestaan maar toen wij onze boot gingen kopen is de keus op de dart gevallen </div> <div> op dit moment is er ook een voor zichtig begin gemaakt met een eigen site <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://www.dartsailer.info" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.dartsailer.info"><U><B>www.dartsailer.info</B></U></A></FONT> </div> <div> veel succes met uw vereniging </div> <div> hans stroomberg </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.06.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Enric, an Spanish modelmaker, dealing with a model of a Banjer.</B></div> <bR> <div> El caso que me lleva a ponerme en contacto con V des es el siguiente: </div> <div> Hace ya bastantes años, el Sr. Jacques Dore contra almirante de la Armada francesa y en la actualidad Conseiller Reguional de Bretagne, y amigo de la familia al enterarse de que yo, me dedicaba al modelismo naval me dijo, si podría hacerle la maqueta del yate del cual mando a Udes. una fotocopia, sobre este particular, me mando un folleto, de donde he sacado la dirección de Vdes, que francamente ignoro si sigue siendo la misma ya que han transcurrido algunos años. EI Sr. Jacques Dore me mandó algunas fotografías indicándome algunos detalles del yate, pero lo que no tengo y me precisan, son la forma de las cuadernas, que en relación a la quilla le dan el arrufo que ha de tener el yate. Si Udes. tienen algún plano donde se vean estas,mucho les agradecería se sirviesen remitirmelo, en fin todos cuantos detalles pudieran serme utiles, ya se que esto es un poco difícil ya que existe una relación entre cuadernas que además del arrufo le da la forma exterior. </div> <div> Yo, por mi parte estoy acostumbrado a trabajar de otra forma pero espero que si tengo los planos, podre salir del atasco. </div> <div> Saludos Enric </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>30.05.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Richard Creel</B></div> <bR> <div> Hallo, </div> <div> I am currently living in the UAE (Middle East), and will probably be here for several more years. I am looking for an older sailboat/motorsailer which I would probably sail down here sometime in the next year or so. My choices at the moment are between a Banjer and a Formosa 41 and I am leaning towards the Banjer because of its seaworthyness and durability. I note that there is one for sale at the moment in Split, Croatia. Do you have any information on this boat? I am quite prepared to buy a boat in need on some TLC and fix it up over the next few years.</div> <div> Yours, Richard Creel</div> <div> <B>creel_richard@hotmail.com</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>05.05.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From José Arocena, to our Delegate in France</B></div> <bR> <div> Bonjour,</div> <bR> <div> J'ai pu voir sur un site dédié au banjer 37 que vous étiez le "délégué" pour la France.</div> <div> J'envisage d'acquérir une unité "fiftie" dans ce style pour changer radicalement de navigation. J'ai actuellement un First 35S5...et suis basé au pays basque (Hendaye).</div> <div> Connaissez vous des propriétaires qui pourraient me parler de leur Banjer et peut être me le faire visiter?</div> <div> Les unités étant assez âgées, vieillissent-elles bien?</div> <div> Je suis preneur de tout renseignement.</div> <div> Merci par avance.</div> <bR> <div> Arocena José</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>10.04.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Steve Lloyd, in USA.</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello Guillermo, Greetings from Seattle!</div> <bR> <div> Congratulations on a great website for a great little ship!</div> <bR> <div> I know of a 1972 Banjer 37 that is available here in Puget Sound, State of Washington, "HUNTRESS" (original name), but I do not know her HIN yet. I have emailed the four USA interested parties that had their email addresses on your site, and would like to notify August Krebs in New Mexico and Van Taiariol in Redwood City, California. Perhaps you could forward my email to them as well as posting up this info on your 'Trading Area' web page. I will be in touch with more info after I have met the owner and seen the boat next week.</div> <bR> <div> I have also put out feelers to try and locate "Island Trader" for you, are you just assuming she is still in British Columbia, Canada after the 'NORTH TO ALASKA' trip? Do you know when they did that trip?</div> <bR> <div> You have your Banjer "MARIE" in one of my favorite places to stop on the English Channel to the Mediterranean route. I have spent many very enjoyable stops there in the seventies, always at the Club Real de Yates at Bajona (Baiona?). The last time was in 1979 when I was taking my 45' cutter back down to Puerto Banus from Lymington; in the middle of Biscay my Perkins 4-107 threw a bearing, so I had to sail into the club. I then found a new Perkins 4-108 in Bilbao and had it trucked to the club in Bajona, where I had taken the 107 out of the boat with the hoist at the club and put the new 108 in the cockpit and we sailed the boat up to Vigo for the local Rolls Royce/Caterpillar people to install the new engine. Then back to the club for R & R before heading South. Wonderful memories of the Seafood restaurants and the Parador. Great to see the photos on the website - it hasn't changed!</div> <bR> <div> We are well qualified to help with questions on motorsailers as our company has been the West coast of North America dealer for Nauticat for over eighteen years. I myself delivered, in 1982, a new Nauticat across the 'pond' from Hamble to Annapolis, MD., and I recently sold a Fisher here in Seattle; I visited the Fisher Factory when I was in Lymington in 1979. I will continue to monitor your website for any questions that your members may ask that we can contribute to.</div> <bR> <div> Many thanks and Best regards, for Marine Servicenter, Inc.,</div> <bR> <div> Steve Lloyd, Yacht Consultant.</div> <div> Phone: 206-323-2405,</div> <div> Cell#: 206-261-2646.</div> <div> <B>boatsmsc@marinesc.com</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>18.03.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Augusts Krebs (Zelda?), in New Mexico ( 28/01/2002)</B></div> <div> (Dear Augusts: Unluckily we had to "decipher" the message -not HTML- and we do not have a valid e-mail address to be able to answer you on time. So here there are the answers to your questions, Augusts. I hope they are still of use to you. GG.)</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo: </div> <div> You have a great web site and my hat is off to you for the effort that you have put into it </div> <div> - I am looking at buying a Banjer and would like to pick your brain for information, if you will let me . I have owned a Hobie 16, G-Cat 18 and a Colombia 27 monohull. I have sailed for about 7 years. I live in the US and the boat will be docked in Florida </div> <bR> <div> - What is the advantage of a motorsailer over a pilothouse sailboat? </div> <div> a- A pilothouse sailboat, if provided with enough HP's, is a motorsailer by all means. Motorsailer concept nowadays is a very wide one. You may even consider most cruising catamarans as motorsailers. We are talking here (Banjers), about "classic" motorsailers, originally breeded on fishing boats designs. From my point of view, classics have more appeal to some people, because of their lines and way of living concept.</div> <bR> <div> - How does a Banjer sail with just sails and no motor running? </div> <div> a- Banjers are heavy, with generous volumes forward and a long shoal keel, so they are not racers at all, but  generally speaking they perform fine from a reach to a quarter running. They like to motorsail when beating to winward.</div> <bR> <div> - What do you think of the Transoceanique rig over the conventional rig?</div> <div> a- More sail power and softer motion for the Trans, due to bigger inertia, which is a better option for sea sailing. Short rig is better for canal navigation purposes, or for an extensive use of motorsailing. </div> <bR> <div> - How do you rate the 4 cylinder Perkins over the 6 cylinder?</div> <div> a- Cheaper to run but noisier. From the point of view of power, I find the 4 cyl. good enough for the boat.</div> <bR> <div> - What is the engine noise level with the engine running? </div> <div> a- Sorry, I do not have it measured, but owning myself a 4 cyl, I find it acceptable if adecuate silentblocks are fitted. Banjers' solid wood floor panels over engine, are pretty effective dampening air borne noise.</div> <bR> <div> - Are there any special items that need to be looked at when doing the survey that are different than when buying a conventional sailboat?</div> <div> a- No, they are basically the same. </div> <bR> <div> - Thanks for your help with this and again congratulations for all the effort that you have put into this site and the club </div> <div> August Krebs </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.02.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Ned Costello,in USA</B></div> <bR> <div> I am looking for a Banjer, would you have a network for buying them in the north-east USA? Thanks for your website, it is great to see a dedicated group to such a wonderful boat.</div> <bR> <div> Ned Costello</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>30.01.2002</B></div> <div> <B>Correspondence among Mr. Van Taiariol and the Commodore</B></div> <bR> <div> From: "Van Taiariol"</div> <div> January 27, 2002 3:33 pm</div> <div> Regarding: Pilothouse</div> <bR> <div> Dear Sirs,</div> <div>  In the US we are limited to 13 ft in height for shipping via trucks. Do you know if the pilot house on the Banjer 37 can be removed for the purpose of shipping?</div> <div> Best Regards,</div> <div> Van Taiariol</div> <div> Redwood City Ca. USA</div> <bR> <div> Great site, interesting boat. </div> <bR> <bR> <div> Dear Van Taiariol:</div> <div> I think the pilothouse cannot be removed without major works being done, but I have had no previous experience with this. If you are not in a hurry, I may try to ask some of the other BMC members, to find out if somebody knows. Are you purchasing a Banjer? If so, could you tell me what's her name and where is she lying? All available info will be very much appreciated for our records purposes and also for being able to better help you with other Banjer matters.</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Guillermo</div> <div> Thank you for your prompt reply, No I am not purchasing a B37 at this time, but looking for one. Not too many have made it the the west coast of the US.</div> <div> I have only seen one here in the San Francisco area. At the time I did not even know what it was. Very interesting design. I will keep looking. If the pilot house can not be removed, transporting the boat to the West Coast will be a problem, but I will keep looking and do some more research.</div> <div> Best Regards,</div> <div> Van Taiariol</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>27.01.2002</B></div> <div> <B>From Michael G., purchasing a Banjer</B></div> <bR> <div> I am in the process of purchasing 1970 Banjer 37 with the larger marconi rig. I would like verification of the following information:</div> <div> Fuel and water capacities?</div> <div> Sail Area?</div> <div> Cruise rpm with 85 hp Perkins diesel?</div> <div> Fuel burn rate with 85 hp Perkins diesel at cruise rpm?</div> <div> Cruise speed under power?</div> <div> Does the vessel perform reasonably under sail alone?</div> <bR> <div> Thanks for any information you can supply. I look forward to becoming a member soon.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>From our Commodore to Michael:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Michael.</div> <div> Thanks for your entry and questions. Here the answers I know:</div> <div> Fuel should be around 900 lts, and water around 700 lts with the two tanks.</div> <div> For a Transoceanique rig, sail area should be around 75 sq. mts., if the boat has had not rig alterations.</div> <div> I don't have information about the cruising rpm and fuel consumption rate for a Perkins 6354 ( I imagine that's the engine you mean), but I'm copying this message to a couple of BMC members whose's banjers mount that engine, to find out if they can be of help.</div> <div> You should expect a cruising speed no higher of 8 - 8,5 knots under power, because of the heavy displacement hull forms. Under sail, I should say you could expect something around 7 knots over the sea, at its most.</div> <div> Banjers with Transoceanique rigs perform reasonably well under sail alone, although they are pure breed traditional motorsailers. Some of our members have logged more than 60.000 miles with their Banjers...</div> <div> I look forward to having the pleasure of receiving you as a member soon.</div> <bR> <div> Best regards and good luck.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>From our Treasurer to Michael</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Michael,</div> <div> Fuel consumption about 10 lts/h with 8 - 8,5 knots RPM 1.800 : 6 lts/h with  6 - 7 knots RPM 1.500</div> <bR> <div> Regards, Ton Koot</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>07.12.2001</B></div> <div> <B>More from Florian Schumann:</B></div> <bR> <div> ....Thank you for answering my mail. At least my grandfather owned a Banjer. This one was called "Schwabine", and was number "28" built on the eista shipyard. I think my familiy fetched the ship in the summer of 1970 at the shipyard. It was laying until 1978 in the "Marina Hannibal" Monfalcone near Triest/Italy.The ship was member of the ADAC München. It had the small 28 sqm rig, and the 6 cyl. Perkins engine. In 1978 it was sold to an yugoslavian man. We are still in contact with this man. After he sold it to another yugoslavian, who was perhaps going to Sweden or Norway with this ship during the civil war......</div> <div> The "Pothos" which I have seen in Rab/Croatia in about 1995 was for sale,  but I don´t know anything about this ship.</div> <div> So thanks a lot, and I hope this some information is a little help,</div> <bR> <div> Florian</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>06.12.2001</B></div> <div> <B>From Florian Schumann</B></div> <bR> <div> E-mail: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>docpowder@gmx.de</U></FONT></div> <div> Does anybody know something about the Banjer  formerly knowen as "Schwabine"? Or does anybody know where the ship is now?</div> <div> Thanks, Florian</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>25.11.2001</B></div> <div> <B>From Merdeka's former owner.</B></div> <bR> <div> I am the former owner of 37'' Banjer Transoceanique "Merdeka", sold 1983 (USA). She sailed in the Great Lakes and along the US East Coast.</div> <div> I have many warm memories of this "little ship".</div> <div> Best wishes,</div> <div> J. S.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>24.11.2001</B></div> <div> <B>From Clark van Galder, in the USA</B></div> <div> Email: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>clarkvg@aol.com</U></FONT></div> <div> I live in La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA. We have a cottage on Lake Superior and after reading about the Banjer37 I think it might be a great boat for up there. I would also like to sail alone the East coast of the United States and Canada. Are there any Banjer37 on Lake Superior? Or the anywhere on the Great Lakes?? </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>19.11.2001</B></div> <div> <B>From a Banjer 37 ex-owner:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello,</div> <bR> <div> I just want to report on a 1971 Banjer 37'' I bought in Panama under the name of Snug, in 1977. I changed the name to Araok, added a bowsprit and a roll furling mule sail subtended by a wishbone, that filled the triangle between the main backstay and the mizzen mast, that was raised 4 feet. </div> <div> I crossed the Atlantic to the Mediterranean and back to the Caribbean and she would average 5.5 to 6 knots. She even reached 12 knots once under spinnaker in force 6/7. She was an excellent boat that I sold in Miami in 1985, after living onboard full time for 7 years. </div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> F. G.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B> <A NAME="31_10_2001"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="1" ALIGN="bottom" WIDTH="1" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" ></A></B><B>31.10.2001</B></div> <div> <B>From Mike Ingle, </B>who worked at Stangate with his uncle Alec:</div> <bR