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<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr> <td valign="top" height=130 BGCOLOR="#CC3300" TEXT="#080000" bgproperties="fixed" background="77125821dvmwjc.png"> <div> <B><IMG SRC="8484b5c0.png" border=0 width="75" height="92" ALIGN="LEFT" HSPACE="10" VSPACE="0"></B><FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFCCB2" FACE="Arial" ><B>  </B></FONT></div> <div> <FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFFFFF" FACE="Arial" ><B>Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club</B></FONT><B>     |     </B><A HREF="index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club"><U><B>Home</B></U></A><B>           </B></div> <div> <A HREF="members_contacts.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Clubcontacts"><U>Clubcontacts</U></A>   |   <B>B & F Letters</B>   |   <A HREF="members_workshop.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Workshop"><U>Workshop</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_improvements.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Forum Improvements"><U>Forum - Improvements</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_gear.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Gear Equipment hints"><U>Gear & Equipment hints</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_eista.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Eistabanjerguide"><U>Eistabanjerguide</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_lines.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="LinesSailing"><U>Lines&Sailing</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_hydrostatics.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Hydrostatics"><U>Hydrostatics</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_cheklist.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Check List"><U>Check List</U></A>   |   <A HREF="members_old.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Old letters"><U>Old letters</U></A></div> <div> </div> </td> </tr><tr> <td valign="top" height=350 BGCOLOR="#FFFFCC" TEXT="#080000"> <div> <I>B & F Letters</I></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B> <A NAME="letters_from_members___friends"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="1x1.gif" HEIGHT="1" ALIGN="bottom" WIDTH="1" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" ></A></B><FONT SIZE="4" COLOR="#000099" FACE="Arial" ><B>Letters from Members & Friends</B></FONT></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>Find here a most interesting correspondence from Visitors and  BMC Members.</B></div> <bR> <div> <B> <TABLE BORDER="2" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="619" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 65 WIDTH="607"><div> <B>Publishig Policy</B>:  </div> <div> Publishing will be always at the Club criteria, depending on space available and general interest of the content, that may be excerpted.  BMC is not responsible for the opinions of the authors.</div> <div> Private correspondence is always published with permission.</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>You can find correspondence older than January 01, 2006 </B></div> <div> <B>(All, the way back to Nov, 2000), by clicking </B><A HREF="members_old.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Old letters"><U><B>HERE</B></U></A></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> Messages in a bottle</div> <div> <IMG SRC="86d80750.gif" border=0 width="128" height="117" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>July 01, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>From Cheryl </B></div> <div> Hi, I wonder if you can help me. My partner and I have just bought a 1970, 18' wooden canal boat which we have been told was called Banjer. The boat was hand made from plans bought from boat builders in Poole. Did Banjer do other boats than the 37? Could our boat have originated from the same stable? If not, can you tell me what a banjer is?</div> <div> Kind regards, Cheryl. </div> <bR> <div> Answer from the Commodore:</div> <bR> <div> Dear Cheryl,</div> <div> As far as I know both Stangate Marine and the Eista Werf never manufactured wooden boats, but steel or GRP ones. Banjer 37 was the only series boat from their premises to be built under that name. The Eista Werf produced also a wealth of models, but none in wood. You can find more info at:</div> <div> http://banjer37msclub.tripod.com/techs.htm</div> <div> Tha name "Banjer" is a Dutch word for wich I have been told a couple of meanings. One of them is "toff" or "swell" with an associated verb (banjeren) meaning to "swagger". The other meaning is "nutty boy".</div> <div> I hope this can be of help.</div> <div> Best regards.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell.</div> <div> BMC Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>July 01, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>From RESPITE's new owners: </B></div> <div> Hello!  We have just bought "Respite" which was for sale in Charleston, SC, and we would love to join the club.  We also want to thank the club for helping us find her; we first found her for sale on the club's website.  (You may kindly remove our "looking to buy a Banjer" message from the site. )  In 1971 we visited Estiawerf and sailed a Banjer with Frank Ellsberg.  Unfortunately, we didn't buy one at the time, but we've wanted one ever since.  Respite may even be the very boat we sailed, as she is a 1970 Banjer!  We think it's a destiny  thing :0)</div> <div> Lambert (Sam) and Lucy Block</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 10, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>More from Frank Goelo</B></div> <div> I don't recall the name of the vendor in Panama, other than he was a canal pilot and was selling because of Parkinson's disease...</div> <div>  </div> <div> <A HREF="http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/displayPhoto.jsp?&photo=4&boat_id=1601363&ybw=&boatyr=1971&boatname=37%27+Banjer+A-4%2C+Pilothouse&photo_revised_date=1144622634000&photo_name=cockpit+seating" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/d"><U><B>http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/displayPhoto.jsp?&photo=4&boat_id=1601363&ybw=&boatyr=1971&boatname=37%27+Banjer+A-4%2C+Pilothouse&photo_revised_date=1144622634000&photo_name=cockpit+seating</B></U></A></div> <div>  </div> <div> On this pic you can readily see some of the changes I made: </div> <div> The stainless plate under the winches is screwed (tap and threaded) into the bronze fitting of the existing fairlead and is angled in such a way that a pulley flat below the plate allows to route the staysail sheet to the winch on the other side, thus negating the need for additional winches...</div> <div> I made a new heavy stainless steel fitting to support the mizzen mast on top of the cabin, which I raised 3 feet: you can see the set of belaying pins right at the foot of the mast. If I'd raised higher, as first contemplated, I would have had nowhere to tie the mule roller furler line and wishbone sheet.</div> <div> I replaced the main back stay with a much heavier one attached on the mizzen mast support and run a steel strap from that fitting all the way down the aft engine room bulkhead to take the additional loads.</div> <div> The wishbone hinged on the main backstay at right angle to it and had a fixed line to the main masthead to hold it in place: it then sheeted atop the mizzen mast and  the mule sail added at least a knot of speed no matter where the wind came from.</div> <div> It took no time to unroll the sail and it would work great upwind with its clean leading wire edge and down wind in combination with the spinnaker and was perfect to stop any rolling motion underway or at anchor.</div> <div> Lastly, you'll see on this pic a mahogany top cap I made to cover the hull/deck joint that tended to open up...</div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Frank</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 7, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>Frank Goelo was the second owner of ARAOK, then named SNUG</B></div> <div> I have owned a 37' Banjer that I bought in Panama and extensively customized, including a bowsprit - the jib became a staysail and I made my own furler for the genoa - a roll furling mule sail subtended by a wishbone hinged on the backstay and sheeted on top of the same mizzen mast raised 3' and a storm spinnaker from a larger vessel. I sailed her full time for 7 years, including 2 transatlantic crossings and she was the sweetest vessel I have ever owned, averaging 5.5 to 6 knots under sail on long passages and doing once 12 knots under spinnaker and full main in a blow...The mule sail, in particular, with its clean leading edge and wishbone, added another knot of speed no matter where the wind came from: it was the first sail up and the last one down...</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 25, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>Would you like to join Angus Bodman for a trip to Ireland?</B></div> <div> Dear Members </div> <div> I have been a member of the Banjer club for a number of years and in 2005 bought a Banjer in Hellevoetsluijs, near Rotterdam. </div> <div> Since that time she has been based in Guernsey. I have substantially upgraded her and have cruised annually in the Channel Islands and Brittany area. </div> <div> In 2009 I plan to cruise from Guernsey along the west coast of Ireland. A number of friends from Guernsey and the UK have indicated that they will join the cruise but there are still some legs unfilled so I would like to extend an invitation to Banjer owners to join me in this fascinating sailing area. </div> <div> If you would be interested in this opportunity to cruise on Bravour, please send me an e-mail and I will reply with details of the itinerary, possible costs and planned dates. </div> <div> Kind regards </div> <div> Angus Bodman </div> <div> <B>angusbodmanNOSPAMgooglemail.com </B>(substitute NOSPAM with @ )</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 01, 2009</B></div> <div> <B>Lynda Y. Young wanted to search for her father's Banjer BEENDEREN.......</B></div> <bR> <div> Jan 21, 2009</div> <div> Would I need to have the hull number to find a previously owned Banjer? My father owned one back in the 70’s and we just loved the ship. Just thought I might be able to find her again. Her name back then was Beenderen.</div> <div> Thanks for any help you can provide.</div> <div> Lynda Y. Young</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 22, 2009</div> <div> Dear Lynda, </div> <div> Thanks for your contact. </div> <div> Unluckily we do not have any registered Banjer in our records with Beenderen as a previous name. What was the name of your father? Where did he bought the Banjer? Did he keep the Banjer in UK waters or then somwhere else...? Did the Banjer mount any special and characterizing equipment, rig, etc ? Perhaps we can trace it back having an answer to such questions. I can post a message at the 'Letters' page in the web site, to try to find out with members and visitors. </div> <div> I'm copying this message to Colin Whimster and Ton Koot, our honourable Secretary and Treasurer respectively, as welll as to our Honorary Member Mike Ingle, nephew of Alec Ingle, the founder of Stangate Marine. Perhaps they can be of some help. </div> <div> I look forward to receiving the answers to my questions, or whatever other info you consider of interest, to post a message at the web site. </div> <div> Kindest regards. </div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell </div> <div> BMC Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 23, 2009</div> <div> Thank you so much for your response. My father’s name was Lowell C. Yund and he purchased the boat from a boat show in Annapolis, Maryland from a broker named Tom Tirion. I do know for sure that the boat was never in UK waters, but we did sale her to Bermuda from the Chesapeake Bay. I can almost move around the boat in my mind, but can’t think of any particular equipment she may have been equipped with – just things that were probably standard – gimbled stove/oven, huge ice box in the galley. I also know that he sold it to a couple by the name of Jim and Tonya Horowitz who apparently did quite a bit of world traveling until their children were of school age. I will look and see if I can find the hull number in any of my old files.</div> <div> Thanks again for responding. I guess it’s possible that she was never registered. Have a good day.</div> <div> Lynda </div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 23, 2009</div> <div> Dear Lynda </div> <div> Tom Tirion was the Banjer agent for W Coast USA. He would have imported the boat direct from Holland before the time that we started building, so the hull number will be quite low. I recall news of the boat in Chesapeake Bay but we never saw her in the UK </div> <div> Best regards </div> <div> Mike Ingle </div> <div> Ex Stangate Marine</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 24, 2009</div> <div> Dear Lynda, </div> <div> I've found the name of Jim Horowitz in our records! </div> <div> So the Banjer is still in the USA, new owners live in Maine and they are members of the BMC. </div> <div> Sorry I can not give you their contact data without their previous permisssion, but I'm going to forward them this message, for them to know about you and contact you if they want so. </div> <div> I look forward to knowing more from this Banjer history, then getting yours and tthe owner's permission to post all these correspondence at the web pages (without contact data, of course). </div> <div> Best regards. </div> <div> Guillermo. </div> <div> P.S. thanks for your kind help, Mike.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 24, 2009</div> <div> Hello Lynda et al-</div> <bR> <div> To start with, I want to repeat something that I mentioned to the Banjer Club people, and that is that the hull number of Magus is 50, not 86 that they had in their records. At least, that's what the builder's plate on the vessel shows.</div> <bR> <div> And yes, Magus is Beenderen. </div> <bR> <div> Jenny and I bought Magus in April, 2008 from Vern and Patricia Morey. They had lived on her since some (short) time after they bought her in 1985, travelling throughout the Caribbean; I know they got down to Venezuela at some point. They had moved off of her in July, 2007, and moved on to an old "trawler yacht" at the dock in Salinas, Puerto Rico. Magus was on an anchor in the harbor, and they wanted to sell her. The boat was well worn, and needed some serious updating, but the hull and engine were in excellent condition. I could go into more detail, but the short story is that we are planning to visit her every winter/spring for several weeks, until some year we may move onto her for longer, and perhaps bring her back up to Maine. No schedule for that, though.</div> <bR> <div> So, looking at the Abstract of Title from the USCG, it looks like Vern and Patricia bought Magus from the attorney for Jim and Tanya Horowitz in February, 1985. I don't know what that means about the Horowitz's at that time-- were they sick or dead, or just letting the lawyer take care of it?; I don't have any idea. Anyway, they bought the boat in April, 1982 from Lowell C. Yund and Ruth F. Yund. I know that the boat was named Magus when the Moreys bought her, so apparently the Horowitz's changed the name from Beenderen. </div> <bR> <div> I also see that the Yund's had her registered with the USCG in November, 1979, but the abstract lists her as being built in 1971 at Eista Werf, N.V. for Lowell C. Yund. I see another reference to "ex-MD 5945 P" that was probably the Maryland registration. </div> <bR> <div> Other than what I mentioned above from the documents I have, I know nothing about the history of the boat from before the Moreys owned her*. I'm fairly certain that they bought her in Florida, but I would have to talk to Patricia to confirm that. (Vern died early in the summer, 2008, and Patricia is still living on their trawler in Salinas, Puerto Rico.)</div> <bR> <div> *Actually, there were still good records for most of the equipment, much of which seemed likely to be original; including a blueprint of the wiring arrangement. No logs, though (or not that we've found, yet.)</div> <bR> <div> So Lynda, I'd love to hear any good stories you could tell me about Beenderen, and it sounds like you heard something about the Horowitz's travels. </div> <bR> <div> -Albert</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 25, 2009</div> <div> Thanks a lot, Albert.</div> <div> Magus' building number is 50, of course. Number 82 (not 86) is the number of  the BMC membership, which is a different thing. It's just the registering  number when a given Banjer enters first time in our records.</div> <div> I'll love to know more about Magus' history from Lynda.</div> <div> All the best.</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> Jan 26, 2009</div> <div> WOW!!!! Thanks so much to everyone for taking this full circle. I can definitely give you some of her traveling history, such as we took her to Bermuda in 1980 from the Chesapeake, but can give you many more details. I think we may still have the log book, I'm not sure. My father was a stickler for documentation. My mother is still living and I'm sure she will love to hear this news and be more than willing to contribute stories. Let me get some thoughts and pictures and stories together. </div> <div> Will be in touch with you very soon.......</div> <div> Lynda </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Jan 07, 2009</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> BONNE ANNEE<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> 2009<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Meilleurs voeux , de la joie et de la bonne humeur </div> <div> et tout et tout ...... le reste suivra<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <bR> <div> BANJER DAMY III,  MYRIAM et DANIEL</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 27, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>An unknown Banjer in far away waters has been brought to the Club's attention, thanks to one of its members.</B></div> <div> <B>Here the correspondence.</B></div> <bR> <div> (JC)</div> <div> Mon cher Guillermo, </div> <div> Lors d'un voyage en Nouvelle Calédonie au mois de Juin 2008, j'ai trouvé à Nouméa un Banjer, "GERTOUNE" amarré au Club Nautique Calédonien.</div> <div> Son propriétaire le possède depuis je crois 1980. Il s'agit d'un gréement aurique de la première génération, sans bout dehors, mais avec pont en teck, et très bien entretenu.</div> <div> Le propriétaire assez agé habite Nouméa, je pourrais te donner son adresse si tu désires entrer en contact.</div> <div> Ces renseignements te permettrons de compléter j'espère le recensement de la flotte</div> <div> Cordialement</div> <div> JC    Capt "KRISMA II"</div> <bR> <div> (Guillermo)</div> <div> Thanks a lot JC!</div> <div> I will be most grateful if you give me the name and address of GERTOUNE's owner, to get in touch with him and invite him to become a member of the Banjers Club.</div> <div> Being in New Caledonia, this Banjer is close to where Brian Hull lives (only 1342 nautical miles, what's that?), so I'm copying this message to him for him to know. Perhaps someday they can meet each other with their Banjers, so doing the first 'down under' Banjers Gathering!</div> <div> Best wishes.</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <div> (Brian Hull)</div> <div> Guys,</div> <div> Back in the nineties I did a celestial navigation course in Southport Queensland Australia.</div> <div> Part of this course was to participate in a race to Noumea in New Caledonia from Southport on a retired maxi yacht belonging to the navigation school.</div> <div> While in Noumea on the marina I saw the Gertaune.....................</div> <div> It will be interesting to learn how she came to New Caledonia.</div> <div> This gives us one Banjer37 in South Africa, one in New Caledonia & one in Papua New Guinea. I know of none in Australia or New Zealand.</div> <div> I don't know how many are in South America.</div> <div> Brian Hull </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 25, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From MAGUS' new owner.</B></div> <div> Hello Club people- </div> <div> I have been meaning to write since my wife and I bought Magus, Banjer #50 last April in Puerto Rico. I really appreciated all of the information I was able to get from the website before we decided to buy her, and now I notice that a lot of it is only for members. We would love to become club members,...</div> <div> For your info, we are planning to keep Magus in Puerto Rico for a few years, anyway. We will be staying in Maine except for the one or two times a year that we will go down there, which of course, will be during the winter/ early spring. Here is a link to a blog with photos from out trip last year: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://alpeaks.blogspot.com/" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://alpeaks.blogspot.com/"><U><B>http://alpeaks.blogspot.com/</B></U></A></FONT> </div> <div> (We will be visiting again for all of March, 2009.) </div> <div> We would be happy to correspond with other members, especially if any are going to be cruising in Maine in the summer; or Puerto Rico when we're there, too, of course. </div> <div> Thanks, </div> <div> Albert.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="12e400800.jpg" border=0 width="512" height="384" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 16, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From Hans Ekdom. </B></div> <div> Amazing...!!!!</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="12d92bfa0.png" border=0 width="555" height="250" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 08, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From Rob and Jacqueline</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> Hope you are well….regret to report we now sold Albatros....</div> <div> We will surely miss the contacts and do hope we are allowed to show our face at the Banjer meeting 2010….</div> <div> We have now joined the Schottel boat club, it is nice, but not a similar feeling like the Banjer club.</div> <div> Albatros will remain in the Netherlands, her new owner may move her to Italy within a year or 2.</div> <div> Many, many thanks for all you have done and are still doing for the club and suggest to stay in touch.</div> <div> Take care!</div> <div> Rob and Jacqueline</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="12d4d9630.jpg" border=0 width="473" height="355" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Oct 25, 2008.</B></div> <div> <B>News from Mike E.</B></div> <div> We've been working hard on Rendezvous these last weeks, though we did take a day and go motoring down to Sausalito. </div> <div> All interior surfaces are being scrubbed of 36 years accumulations. </div> <div> The fresh water pump has been replaced, the fresh water tanks have been treated with chlorine, found a leak in the aft one, took the inspection port off and manually cleaned it but found the leak to be external, probably part of the fill hose. </div> <div> One bilge pump replaced, plans of adding two more higher capacity pumps.</div> <div> Steering problem addressed, mainly a lack of lubrication accounted for the stiffness </div> <div> 280 feet of chain removed from boat, cleaned and painted at 25 foot intervals, should be back on the boat this coming weekend. </div> <div> It seems though, the to-do list is longer now than when we first looked at the boat, and it's growing!</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 28, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>(Received Sept 9).</B></div> <div> Hello all,</div> <div> I should let you know that Pax Mercerium (formerly Huntress) has been sold......</div> <div> It was a very difficult decision to sell my Banjer. It has been a wonderful boat – both in calm waters and of course in the ocean in storm conditions. During my ownership I put about 1400 hours on the 1994 Perkins Diesel (85HP). I had made several improvements, esp. the Bowthruster, larger holding tank, and davit. New owner has removed the davit I had installed on the stern. I did not like the looks of the davit but it made handling the Avon 3.10 much easier, but this is a matter of taste,</div> <div> I will be moving onto a different boat, more of a small off-shore long distance ocean cruiser....</div> <div> I wish to thank the Banjer MoterSailer Club for all your advice and assistance during the four years I owned Pax Mercerium, ex Huntress.</div> <div> Cheers and best wishes on the sea and land,</div> <div> Don.</div> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B> <TABLE BORDER="2" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="759" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 188 WIDTH="747"><div> <B>Sept 27, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From the Commodore</B></div> <div> Dear all:</div> <div> I have received lately several letters form members, telling me about you and the visits you have paid to or have received from other members within the last months. Also several letters saying thanks for the usefulness of these web pages for the selling or buying of your Banjers. This is most encouraging and fully justifies all efforts done to keep the Club alive and kicking.</div> <div> I want to thank all of you for your kind support and enthousiasm.</div> <div> Keep on Banjering!</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></B></div> <div>  </div> <bR> <div>  </div> <div> <B>Sept 25, 2008</B></div> <div> Banjer TIJDVERDRIJF's owner send us this link to several images fro the building of SULASGEIR's beautiful model. An outstanding realization!</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <A HREF="http://www.yachtmodels.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=692" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.yachtmodels.co.uk/gallery/mai"><U><B>http://www.yachtmodels.co.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=692</B></U></A><B> </B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 24, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>The interesting story of Banjer SUMMER RAIN from her new owner, Matt G.</B></div> <bR> <div> She is hull number 51 and her year of construction is variously listed as 1970 or 1971. Her original owner was apparently Dominic J. Daly, a property consultant, auctioneer and estate agent based in Pembroke Street in Cork, Ireland. Mr. Daly's firm is apparently still active and has a website at <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000CC" FACE="Arial" >http://www.dominicjdaly.com/</FONT> . On this website, his professional history is described as follows:</div> <div> <I>Dominic Daly has over 30 years auctioneering experience. He is a member of the IAVI (Irish Auctioneers and Valuers Institute) and a former chairman of the Cork Harbour Commisioners as well as a member of the Cobh & Harbour Chamber of Commerce. </I></div> <div> <I>President of the Munster Agricultural Society and Honorary Belgium Consul for Carlow, Cork, Kerry, Kilkenny, Tippeary, Waterford, & Wexford.</I></div> <bR> <div> The BOKMA (as hull #51 was then named), was registered in 1971 in Littlehampton, West Sussex, England. Unusually for a Banjer, she was fitted with an 80 H.P. Gardner & Sons diesel. According to her UK registration documents, this engine was manufactured in 1948. I do not know if this engine was fitted by the manufacturers at Eista Werf or was subsequently installed by Mr. Daly. However, Mr. Daly mentioned this engine as a major selling point in his letter to her second owners, Dana M. Sheldon M.D. and his wife Dorothy Sheldon, of Spruce Head, Maine in the USA.</div> <bR> <div> Dr. Sheldon evidently placed an advertisement in <I>Yachting World </I>seeking to buy a Banjer 37. Mr. Daly responded to this ad in December 1985, which resulted in the subsequent sale of the BOKMA to Dr. Sheldon in April 1986. The BOKMA was thoroughly surveyed in February 1985 by I.M. Nicolson of A. Mylne & Co., naval architects (<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" >http://www.mylne.com/</FONT>). At the time, BOKMA was lying in the Crosshaven Boatyard, in Crosshaven, Cork, Eire. Dr. Sheldon (who was or is a psychiatrist) took possession of the BOKMA in June 1986, and renamed her the BONAVENTURE. </div> <bR> <div> According to the memorandum prepared by Dr. Sheldon as he was offering BONAVENTURE for sale "due to health reasons," he sailed her down the West coast of Ireland, then through canals in France, Belgium and Holland into the Mediterranean. He then crossed the Atlantic to Antigua ("taking only 4 days longer than average passage, with original short rig") and subsequently sailed her from Florida to Maine and Nova Scotia.</div> <bR> <div> During the years of his ownership, Dr. Sheldon made a number of significant modifications and enhancements to the BONAVENTURA. Among these changes were the following:</div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700f000000000.png" HEIGHT="16" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Replacing the Gardner with a new Lugger 62 H.P. diesel engine, based upon a John Deere block marinized by Alaska Diesel Electric </div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700f000000000.png" HEIGHT="16" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Installing a taller Hinckley spar in place of the mainmast with a Cruising Design roller furling system abaft the mast, and adding a 4' bowsprit with a used Hood roller-furling jib, doubling the sail area to 824 s.f. (76.6 m2), effectively converting her to a 'Transoceanique' model </div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700f000000000.png" HEIGHT="16" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Installing a Faryman 1-cylinder 3KW generator mounted on the port side of aft hold </div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700f000000000.png" HEIGHT="16" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Installing a Dickinson diesel cabin heater </div> <div> <IMG BORDER="0" SRC="Symb075c00b700f000000000.png" HEIGHT="16" WIDTH="24" ALIGN="bottom" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">Rewiring the boat. </div> <bR> <div> Gene W. purchased the BONAVENTURA in June 1994, and subsequently used her a live-aboard in Boston. Over the years, Gene sailed her down the Intracoastal Waterway several times and cruised in the Bahamas.</div> <div> (Note from the editor: Gene changed BONAVENTURA's name to her present SUMMER RAIN)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 15, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>New Baner owners at last!</B></div> <div> Hi Guillermo</div> <div> We did it, about 10:19 the last paper was signed. DaKine / Pelerin /Lexie MacDonald, now US Coast Guard Documented Vessel "Rendezvous" is ours, Mike and Celeste. We are on the Alameda Estuary, Grand Marina, across from Coast Guard Island. We are spending our first night aboard, with a nearly full moon to light the evening.</div> <div> On our arrival, the current owner, George, was waiting with gifts, a bottle of champagne and a car full of "stuff", more oversized line, lots of blocks, a few spares for the motor, with promises of more tomorrow. I sorted through some of that, as well as what was on board, with special attention paid to out dated safety items, making a list to go shopping at West Marine tomorrow.</div> <div> Celeste spent some of the day going through the monumental stack of paper, every bill of sale, piece of equipment, present or not, from LoranC Document to VHS owners manual. She is hoping to assemble a biography for the ship.</div> <div> Monday she is hauled, bottom painted, some of the survey items tended to, and next weekend she powers across the bay to San Rafael, Lowries Yacht Harbor.</div> <div> Mike</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 12, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>More from Mike:</B></div> <div> ....Saturday morning at 10 am Pacific Daylight Time, I sign the papers and Rendezvous will be mine. A romantic side note, the well known American Author, Jack London, has a shopping/tourist area named after him, Jack London Square, where he used to hang out drinking beer and writing about his adventures, some of which included sailing boats on San Pablo Bay, and complaining about the conditions that the Banjer excels in. Appropriately, the signing will take place at Jack London Square, where he probably walked over the very ground....</div> <div> Next week she is hauled, bottom painted, seacocks serviced, prop balanced and then the following weekend, she comes home to Lowries yacht Harbor, where she will take her place as one of the most interesting boats on the San Rafael Canal. </div> <div> Side note, I kayak on the Canal and have admired a number of boats in the past years, including a 30 foot Fisher. Every time I looked at that boat I wondered what it was, thinking it was a boat that I would certainly love, so, seeing the Banjer, I was predisposed to liking it.</div> <div> When I arranged for the survey, I told him that she was like a Fisher. He told me during the survey this was built far heavier than Fishers are, having surveyed several, he thought the build quality was commercial, for a boat that could be used every day. In the engine room he tapped on one of the small braces between the fuel tank and the engine stringer and said "keep an eye on this one, it is not as solid as the others, but don't worry, even if it was removed, you have far more bracing than required", pointing to all the other stringer, and the steel plate the engine is mounted on.</div> <div> Mike</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 07, 2008.</B></div> <div> <B>Some correspondence with Mike E., who is purchasing Lexie McDonald (ex Da Kine) and kindly allowed us to post it.</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:03 AM </div> <div> <B>Subject:</B> Re: possible new Banjer 37 owner UPDATE</div> <bR> <div> Guillermo. </div> <div> The offer was accepted! Financing has been arranged, insurance being held up until sales paperwork and survey is in order. </div> <div> Friday we shall have a sea trial and haul out, and assuming all goes well, she will stay out of the water long enough for new bottom paint, and maybe a new forward looking depth sounder and any other underwater work that may be required, such as through hull servicing. </div> <div> Ellie and George came by this morning and gave their blessings, then invited us to their yacht club, we took them to lunch then they took us out on the Bay for about an hour. I took the helm through the most active water and was quite pleased with its handling. Since all my current time on the water is on a sea kayak (I am getting lessons in the Eskimo roll Monday) it was very interesting for the seas to be so active, we took water over the bow once and a number of big splashes, and yet the boat handled it quite well. Ellie said they've been in some very rough stuff, but Pelican has never scared her. </div> <div> George thinks the steering stiffness is entirely within the hydraulic system, he felt the bearings were in good order. We found the source of the water below the port V-berth, that is where the hawse pipe leads, or rather used to lead the anchor chain. When she had an electric windlass installed, the house batteries were used, and a large pair of cables were run up the hawse pipe from the pilothouse, which helps lead the water below the berth. While it is a neat and proper installation, I much prefer the idea of all that chain being as low as possible, it used to run into the bilge, so I will rewire the windlass, with its own battery probably in what is now being used as a chain locker, with much smaller wire for charging. I also plan to install a separate starting battery, but I did find the second house battery, one on each side, forward in the pilot house, on the fuel tanks. </div> <div> I spoke to the man who has been the maintenance man of record for the last 15 years, he thinks, even though the current owner has had her for 9. Within the last five years he has replaced the heat exchanger, exhaust system and fuel oil filters, and indeed the latter is spotless. He feels the boat is in excellent condition with only a few small area requiring attention, he mentioned a small bit of dry rot. </div> <div> Two questions, if I may </div> <div> The water heater is apparently French, a Valiant Geyser. Is the company still in business? I can't find anything on google except for a plumber in Austrailia looking for information. Oddly an identical heater was on sale on Craigslist last week. </div> <div> It has a Sharp & Company "Auto Mate" autohelm. It is a rather odd looking unit, very nautical looking, and with the blanket statement of "everything works" from the current owner, I assume it does. It is British, and again a google search turns up nothing. Do you know anything? </div> <div> Looking forward to becoming a member of the Banjer Motorsailors Club, I guess within the month I will be a full fledged member, I can hardly wait. </div> <div> Mike E. </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:44 AM </div> <div> <B>Subject:</B> Re: possible new Banjer 37 owner UPDATE</div> <bR> <div> Dear Mike, </div> <div> Congratulations for the acceptance of your offer! I hope everything will run smoothly and soon you can become the proud new owner of Lexie McDonald, ex-Da'Kine, as well as receiving you as a member of the Club. I'm also very happy to know about your acquantancy with Ellie and Gearge. It will be very good for all of you to have another BMC member close to you and so be able to share experiences and maintenace tips and may be even sharing sailings in the future. THis will make the Banjer ownership more enjoyable. </div> <div> Regarding your questions. </div> <div> The water hetaer you mention is probably a <B>Vaillant Geyser</B> (like my own) from Germany, and not a 'Valiant'. Here you have their web pages: <U>http://www.vaillant.com/</U> Here their representatives in the USA: <U>http://www.vaillant.com/usa/</U>. Unluckily they are no longer producing that Geyser model anymore, but you can ask them where to get parts over there. I think Banjers mounted any of these models: the MAG 125, the MAG 250 or the MAG 325 (there were several versions of those, depending on the gas to be burnt). Here you have some spare parts for the MAG 125: <U>http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/Caravan/gas/Vaillant_water_heater.aspx</U> </div> <div> I know nothing about the Sharp Auto Mate autopilot, so I cannot be of help here, sorry. You may search internet for 'Sharp autopilots' for some more info or then post a query at any of the cruising forums. </div> <div> I look forward to receiving you as a BMC member soon! </div> <div> My best wishes. </div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:22 AM </div> <div> <B>Subject:</B> Lexie MacDonald Survey </div> <bR> <div> Hi Guillermo </div> <div> When I left today at 8 am I wondered if I might need a long sleeve something for the sea trail, I thought, it's always cold on the water. t was 100°F. I am miserable, I didn't bring enough water and, of course, a boat such as Lexie has no need of A/C, so we sweltered.... </div> <div> Aside from that, it was a great day. When we arrived, Kent Parker was up the mizzen looking at the standing rigging with a magnifying glass, something he used repeatedly on any small, important bit, even some big ones, like the rudder fittings. Lexie now has no secrets, except maybe with the engine, which I've decided not to survey because Chuck's Marine has had fifteen years of supervision of it and says its fine. </div> <div> Only things found amiss were fairly minor, in no particular order </div> <div> A) mizzen bracket does not spread the load across the cabin top very well, the fitting has compressed the spot where attached. When we get serious about sailing I will have a new, heavier duty bracket made that has better distribution. </div> <div> B) Through hull for the raw water intake for the engine is poorly done, an old type fitting that Kent doesn't like, the installation itself is sub-standard. Kent says he has done a number of survey for boats sunk at docks because of installations like this. It will be repaired when we haul for the paint next week. </div> <div> C) Kinked hose in the plumbing, another poorly done job to be taken care of next week. </div> <div> D) Battery boxed required to contain the battery acid and secure the batteries in worse case scenario. </div> <div> E) cooling water intake hose (?) flopping around a bit, secure and another spot of interference with a batter cable. </div> <div> Kent tells me that nothing major has shown up, and should be no problem with financing or insurance. So now it is submit the survey that I should have Monday or Tuesday to both the financial institutions I am applying with and the insurance companies, have the boat hauled and the above repaired and the boat polished and hopefully, within two weeks I have possession of Lexie, probably to be renamed Rendezvous! </div> <div> and only 3 or 4 small blisters that will wait for the next haul when the old bottom paint will be removed and start again with a fresh coat. </div> <div> Mike E., almost owner </div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 27, 2008</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>IMPORTANT NOTICE!</B></div> <div> <B>The site has been remodeled in accordance with what was agreed at the BMC's 2007 General Meeting, as follows: </B></div> <bR> <div> <B>"Workshop", "Forum-Improvements", "Hydrostatics", "Gear & Equipment drawings", "Old Letters", </B><B>"Lines & Sailing", "Eistabanjerguide"</B><B>and "Check List" are now in the private section of the site, available to members only. If you are a member, please ask Guillermo for the username and password to access such pages.</B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 24, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>Da Kine has been found!</B></div> <div> A Banjer named <B>Lexie McDonald</B> came for sale in San Francisco, and she happened to be <B>Da Kine</B>. Here the message form <B>Mike E</B>., who informed us about her:</div> <bR> <div> "Da Kine has been found! There appears to be fairly complete records dating back at least to 1979, since I don't have the papers with me we shall make do with my memory. Kermit Parker Yachts, of San Rafael, California (now NorPac and having moved to Richmond California) sold the boat named Da Kine. I am not at present clear whether that owner renamed her something else, we did see she had a name something like Persius, but are not clear of the time line. The current owner bought her about 1999 and named her Lexi MacDonald, after his Grandmother."</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>July 25, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From Da Kine's ex-Banjer owner, Jerry McGregor</B></div> <div> Hi Guillermo, here are a few more pics of Da'Kine if you want to post  them. The colorful genoa sail I had made in England so it still may be  in the sail inventory on the mystery boat. Other pics were taken in  Tenerife I think. Outhaul shot, don't know. </div> <div> Aloha, Jerry</div> <div> <IMG SRC="11c4aa790.png" border=0 width="426" height="377" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="11c51a790.png" border=0 width="538" height="377" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="11c6d7490.png" border=0 width="471" height="329" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="11c7eb4a0.png" border=0 width="491" height="330" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <div> Note: The 'mistery boat' could be PELICAN, in San Francisco. We are trying to find out if Da Kine is nowadays Pelican or not. See <A HREF="dakine.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Da Kine"><U><B>Da Kine's</B></U></A> special page.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 28, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From fellow member Maarten J.</B></div> <bR> <div> Hola Guillermo,</div> <div> Hope all is well,</div> <div> Few weeks ago I was in Athens for Posidonia and had dinner one evening in the old port of Piraeus. Found this Banjer over there and took some pictures with my mobile phone, hence the bad quality. I think it is the Banjer from venezuela, but I am not sure. </div> <div> Best regards,</div> <bR> <div> Maarten.</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> (Anybody knows which Banjer is this one? I don't think she's "Lontananza")</div> <div> <IMG SRC="11bf80e00.jpg" border=0 width="640" height="480" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 16, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>Has someone heard about Banjer  </B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>"DA KINE"</B></FONT><B>....</B><B>?</B><B> We received this message from Jerry McGregor in Hawaii:</B></div> <bR> <div> Aloha, yes I live in Hawaii.</div> <bR> <div> In 1971 I bought a Banjer from Stangate Marine in England. My wife & I  took 2 years sailing her back to San Diego where I regretfully sold her.</div> <div> The name we gave her was "Da Kine" meaning 'the best' in Hawaiian. I  know she ended up in Dana Point Harbor & I don't know if the name was  changed.</div> <div> Is there any way you might be able to track the boat down. After all  these years it would be fun to see what happened to her.</div> <bR> <div> Thanks, Jerry</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>May 11, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From friends Eileen and Peter, who own a Claymore motorsailer</B></div> <div> Buon Giorno, Guillermo!</div> <div> ........my husband, Peter and I are living in the United States with 'Olivebank', Massachusetts East Coast on Cape Cod.</div> <div> However, I know our boat is European and was built in England and that  there are quite a few Claymore's in Scotland and the British Isles.</div> <div> I would be pleased to add the Banjer Club's website address to the links on our page and would appreciate if the favor is returned!</div> <div> Just let me know what the url (address) is and I'll take care of that. </div> <div> And....if you folks know of any Claymore owners send them our way! :-)</div> <div> Happy sailing -</div> <div> Eileen, on M/S 'Olivebank'</div> <div> <A HREF="http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore/index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore"><U><B>http://www.eastcoasthorizon.com/Claymore/index.htm</B></U></A></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>May 4, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>From Martin F., through our web site's form processor.</B></div> <div> I really, really appreciated your extensive information on anchors as I've had a tough time getting any answers on my situation and needs. I've got a WWII Sea Mule tug. 40' long, 12' beam and displaces about 50,000 lbs. I have a 1500 lb stockless anchor which I was given but haven't used yet.</div> <div> Here's my question: What do you think about using wire rope instead of chain or nylon rope? I'm working this boat on a very deep lake 300-500ft.</div> <div> Thanks for any advice.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Commodore:</B></div> <div> Dear Martin,</div> <div> Thanks for your contact through our web pages. I think you are the same  person who asked similar questions at boatdesign.net forums, aren't you?</div> <div> I think there should be no problem to use wire for your ground tackle because of the big depth (otherwise not good for an small one because of the lack of elasticity). It can even be beneficial in your case, as I think 1500 lbs anchor weight is low for the permanent mooring of a 50000 lbs boat in rocky bottoms (as I have told at the forums): the wire's weight (against nylon) can  partially compensate for the lack of weight at the anchor.</div> <div> All the best.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC's Commodore.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 29, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>More from PANDORA</B></div> <div> Hi guillermo,</div> <div> I just want to tell you about the banjermen friendship . We are now at home and we had the pleasure to meet  <B>ventvers</B> , <B>damy</B> and <B>gros baloo</B> several times in march and april ,always around a good meal and a good bottle so it s time to stop eating so much, therefore Daniel and I are leaving france on the 14th may to go to cyprus where pandora is . We got 4 new silent blocks( mountings ) for our engine thanks to Frank de Visser who was able to find the spare parts in Holland and send them to france .Thanks again for creating this big family .</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 2, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>Another very kind message from Taylor I. Cook:</B></div> <div> At present my wife and I plus our crew (two Labrador retrievers) cruise the US East coast usually from May to November on our Krogen 44 named "Water Dog". Home port is Charleston,S.C. Will welcome any Banjerites passing through. </div> <bR> <div> <B>March 30, 2008</B></div> <div> <B>We have received this message from </B><B>Taylor I. Cook</B><B>:</B></div> <div> "Looking for info on Banjer 1970/71,open aft cockpit, closed pilot house named <B>Dakine</B>. Bought by me in California 1972. Was in Navy at the time. Orders to East Coast ship required unfortunate sale in Newport, CA. 1974."</div> <div> Any help? </div> <div> Please contact the Commodore: <B>commodore@banjer37.net</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>January 3, 08</B></div> <div> <B>Wishes from QIMMIQ for 2008:</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> Carpe Banjeriem !!</div> <bR> <div> <B>(We'll do that, Frank, we'll do that!)</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 10, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From the BMC's Honourable Secretary.</B></div> <div> .....I thought you would be interested in the attached photo. About 2 weeks ago I was 70 and six months ago, in secret, 11 of my friends - calling themselves the 'Friends of Sulasgeir' - commissioned a model of Sulasgeir which they presented at a party here in Scotland. </div> <div> I am sure you will agree its a fine model and something to treasure - particularly if I have to give up sailing! Which I don't intend to do for some time! </div> <div> Regards </div> <div> Colin</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="117aff090.jpg" border=0 width="255" height="265" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Dec 07, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>Letter from member Brian Hull to Steven K.</B></div> <div> Steven, </div> <div> I have owned my Banjer37 "Duck Soup" since 1984 & lived aboard for more than twenty years. You will find details of Duck Soup on the website as with many other Banjers. The various layouts are also posted on the website. </div> <div> I have just turned sixty nine & have no difficulty single handing Duck Soup. Over the last twenty three years I have completed about sixty thousand miles cruising. This cruising included a number of voyages in the waters of Papua New Guinea & to North Queensland. One four month trip down the east coast of Australia as far as Port Davey on the west coast of Tasmania, a twelve month staggered trip to New Zealand via Southport Queensland, Lord Howe Island, the Bay of Islands & Auckland where I had a total pox job done. We returned via Tonga, Fiji & Vanuatu. Another extended cruise was to Darwin via Thursday Island, Gove & various other anchorages. From Darwin we proceeded to Ambon in Indonesia, then due North to the Halmahera group, South to the equator, due East to Biak in West Papua & then to Vanimo in PNG. From Vanimo we proceeded leisurely back to Port Moresby in home waters. Most of my cruising has been done with one crew. </div> <div> ...........................</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 26, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Hans S.:</B></div> <div> As a super coincidence we were at Terschelling with our <B>Dartsailer 38</B> and there we were together with two other royals: the <B>Banjer</B> and the <B>Fischer</B>.</div> <div> I think you would like to have this picture.</div> <div> Kind regards</div> <div> Hans S</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>(Banjer is ANNE MARIE)</B></div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="117bf5020.jpg" border=0 width="501" height="258" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 25, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> We are arrived in Hurgadha were is a new and beautifull marina we will go back to France 3 weeks while our guest continue 150 miles further and we will join them the 30 of december to continue to Sudan..</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 10, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Steven, in Australia.</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Mr. Gefaell,</div> <div> I was really impressed with the Banjer 37 when I accidentally stumbled on your web site. I had never heard of Banjer until last week.</div> <div> I was looking around for a Nauticat 33, preferrably on the Mediterranean, where I had intended to buy a boat and travel around my country of birth, Greece.</div> <div> Since I am 58 years old, I thought I should not delay it any longer.</div> <div> To be truthful, I thought a Nauticat 33 would do the job for me, easily and safely. Then I saw your web site, and I must confess, I am having second thoughts about the Nauticat until I fully investigate The Banjer. I also considered the Fisher 30, but I think it is too small for me.</div> <div> I am a competent sailor of many years, and the waters around Melbourne, Australia, can get fairly rugged, especially the Tasman Sea and Bass Straight.</div> <div> I currently own a Columbia 27 (based on American Coronado 26 by Columbia USA). I sail single handed usually, and my small boat suits the time I spend on it, and the destinations I take it to.</div> <div> If I am going to visit Greece, and adjacent countries, during the European summers, over the next few years, I would like to do it comfortably and safely, over 3 month intervals, regardless of weather, hence my attraction to "heavy duty" Motorsailers, especially for the Maltemi winds of the Aegean and the Bourini squalls of the Ionian, which I experenced once and could not believe the ferocity of the winds and the boiling sea.</div> <div> I think you are the same Guillermo, who takes part in forums regularly on the web, am I correct? If so, I would appreciate a little advice and Information from you as I am sure you would know how to compare both vessels ( and perhaps the Fisher 30?) in a helpful, if not critical way.</div> <div> Further, I have scoured the net for technical information on both alternatives, but I have not really found any discussions on weak points and strong points.</div> <div> I have not yet found any really good interior photos and Interior layouts of the Banjer. Perhaps you can guide me a little on this.</div> <div> Osmosis would be a point on both I think. But I am generally seeking reliable advice on handling, reversing, poor design, quirks that could surprise if one does not know about them etc.</div> <div> The Nauticat looks quite attractive and seems to have very well thought out accommodation, but the timber decks and superstructure worry me because of probable deck and house leaks and therefore rot.</div> <div> The Banjer appears to be a no nonsense rugged design, but at the same time, beautiful. Truly a timeless craft, I thought.</div> <div> The Banjer apparently is all fibreglass, but what about hull to deck connection? Are the spars alloy or timber?</div> <div> It seems Banjers have tabernacled masts and less draft ....... handy for canal cruising?</div> <div> Sorry for rambling on and appearing to be answering my own questions, but I have only one chance at this ....... If I get it wrong, it may overturn my plans.</div> <div> And finally, I don't mind if a little work has to be done to get whichever craft up to standard. I am an engineer by profession, but with a good understanding of woodwork, epoxy laminating and treatments, and a reasonable mechanic and electrician. But of course, I don't want to rebuild a boat. I would rather use it for travel and accommodation.</div> <div> I think I have intruded into your time more than I had intended. I would love to get your opinions or a guide to sources of information, where I can make a good decision.</div> <div> Very best regards and congratulations on the Banjer web site.</div> <div> Steven K.</div> <div> Australia.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 14, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Perry in the UK:</B></div> <bR> <div> Hello Guillermo, Are any Banjers fitted with Bruntons Autoprops?</div> <div> <U>http://www.bruntons-propellers.com/</U></div> <div> <U>http://www.autoprop.com/</U></div> <div> If so, do you have any feedback?</div> <div> Best regards,</div> <div> Perry</div> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" >Email: </FONT><B>perrydebell</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>NOSPAM</B></FONT><B>@blueyonder.co.uk </B>(remove <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#CC0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>NOSPAM</B></FONT> from address)</div> <bR> <div> Perry would appreciate any info from any of our fellowmembers who has installed this kind of propellers in his/her Banjer. </div> <div> If you can be of help, please contact him.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 07, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> We are once more in Egypt. But this time we are not on our boat Pandora we are crew on a catamaran called MAILYS. </div> <div> We met this french couple in Larnaka and we talked about Egypt and Red Sea. They were a bit afraid about Suez Canal and Red Sea.</div> <div> The vascodagama rallye going till India was at this time in Larnaka, and they decided to go with this rallye. But the day after they asked us to go onboard with them!</div> <div> We threw our bag on their boat and the day after we are sailing to Port Said.</div> <div> Now our captain ... thinks to go to India.</div> <div> All the information about this trip is can be found on <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://www.vascodamarally.nl" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.vascodamarally.nl"><U><B>www.vascodagamarally.nl</B></U></A></FONT></div> <div> Hope to see you again </div> <div> Daniel & Monique</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 30, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From PAX MERCERIUM:</B></div> <div> Just a note to let you know the bow thruster, a Vetus 75, was installed, and has worked very well especially in docking on tight, difficult spaces. We had a great summer on <B>Pax Mercerium</B>. Interestingly, at Chatterbox Falls, Princess Louisa Inlet, we anchored and, surprise, the other Banjer in BC, named <B>Island Rover</B>, arrived to anchor a boat over from us. She had just been purchased by a new owner; ...... Later on when we went into Gibson’s (a days 7-knot motor from Vancouver), we heard from the wharfinger that he lives in ..... and had just been into Gibson’s a few days before. Many people notice the fine lines of the Banjer and noticed <B>Pax Mercerium</B> and <B>Island Rover</B> as “sister ships”, so to speak.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Sept 22, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>We welcome the new owner of PHILEAS (Ex- LE RESOLU) as  a member of the Club. </B></div> <div> <B>Be very welcome aboard!</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 29, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>A most funny letter received by a member of the Club:</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>Dear Dear XXXXXX, </B></div> <div> <B>Thanks. I think I will like to have the banjer for my retirement and I am ready to pay the 67,000Euros but it is based on condition.</B> </div> <div> <B>XXXXXX, I am a civil servant and I need to do things with protocol and I want you have an idea about my personality. </B></div> <div> <B>My name is Prof. Charles Soludo, I am the Governor*Central Bank of Nigeria *, </B></div> <div> <B>Due to my position as the Governor, I will not be able to pay you directly, because of the political under tone in my country, moreover, we have a new Government in placed and which is seeking my termination, in view of this, I am preparing for my retirement also, and that is why I am interested in buying the boat.</B></div> <div> <B>I want you to buy the boat in my wife's name on my behalf and you will be handsomely paid for your services, my wife will be coming over to meet with you upon receipt of money.</B></div> <div> <B>You will receive the payment by applying to Automated Department as one of the Contractor I owed while in office.</B> </div> <div> <B>It is a new payment scheme and right now we have started paying foreigners that worked with us as a contractor and my intention is to have your name inputted into the database and all you need to do is to apply to the payment department for the release of your contract payment and which I as the head of the central bank will sign and it shall be paid to you accordingly.</B></div> <div> <B>You will make nothing less than 250,000Euros working with me on this project.</B></div> <div> <B>If you are interested get back to me. </B></div> <div> <B>I am using this medium because of my position and to make you feel secure, I am ready to provide you with some personal details about myself that is only if you are ready to work with me.</B></div> <div> <B>Thanks</B></div> <div> <B>Prof.Charles Soludo</B> </div> <div> <B><IMG SRC="10c735350.gif" border=0 width="53" height="53" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>June 26, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From Anne-Ilse, searching for Banjer 'LAST LOVE'</B></div> <div> Name: Anne-Ilse placke</div> <div> Email: <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><B>Anne-ilse@web.de</B></FONT></div> <div> Comments: i am looking for the banjer "last love" in monastir/Tunesie, which belong to Ludwig and Resi. I would like to sent them a note and greetings,  but I dont know how. Please can you help me???</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>May 17, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From DOUWE WILLEM's former owner</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo, </div> <div> (Chairman) and to all Banjer members,<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> With this message I want to let you all know that DOUWE WILLEM is now/on this moment on his way home to Danmark with his new owner Lars. I want to thank you Guillermo, Chus for missing him so many times, Mr. Ton Koot and wife and all the other people , who gave us so many nice memories being a member of your excellent club. Especially Mrs. Ineke de Grijs who made us so a nice Chinese meal on our trip to the 2e meeting in Rotterdam in 2004. I want you all thank for everything it was realy<B> UNFORGETTABLE</B>. I wish you a very good continuation keeping your Banjers in excellent shape. and keep allways water under the keel.................................<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> And you have to remember that OLD BANJERS NEVER DIE.......<FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Your Banjer-lovers for ever LYDIA and TOM ZWIJNENBERG. </div> <div> Fare well and good luck.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>April 9, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From friend Phil Ellis</B></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="d5f222d0.jpg" border=0 width="34" height="45" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>The Banjer 37 Motorsailer Club mourns for the sudden death </B></div> <div> <B>of our fellow member Alan, former owner of PELICAN OF BIRDHAM.</B></div> <div> <B>Our sorrow to his wife, family and friends.</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <bR> <div> You will recall that some time ago I sold "Pelican of Birdham" to Alan W-J and you will know what an enthusiastic owner and contributor to the Banjer cause he became.</div> <div> It is is with great sadness I have to tell you that Alan died suddenly at the end of March whilst exercising at his local Gymnasium, his death is a great loss to his wife and family and his many friends. Alan and I became quite good friends and shall miss our many talks. This year he was planning a summer cruise with Pelican to the West coast of Scotland which he was looking forward to enormously.</div> <div> .......................................</div> <div> Best regards</div> <bR> <div> Philip Ellis</div> <div> Falmouth</div> <div> Ex Banjer Owner</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 17, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From new owner of PAX MERCERIUM (Ex-Huntress)</B></div> <div> Hello Commodore Guillermo Gefaell and Club Members,</div> <div> .....here are some pictures of my Banjer, Pax Mercerium, formerly Huntress....</div> <div> You will note wooden name plates removed and addition of davit for Avon 3.1 on stern. Boat has updated hydraulic steering, autopilot, reworked 1994 Perkins Diesel - 4 cylinder, 85 HP, reworked electrics with North American direct current cigarette-style plugs and updated AC system with AC and DC switches coordinated in wheelhouse on single panel, large black water holding tank, Diesel furnace (Espar), added teak cup holders in wheelhouse, cooler/freezer in wheelhouse (where is fold-down seat – top of cooler is now seat). Also two auto bilge pumps in addition to the manual pumps.</div> <div> Sail plan is in Canada described as ketch-rigged, with 4 sails available.</div> <div> Boat (to clarify) first purchased in Chicago 1972 by an American (built 1970), brought to Tacoma (not Seattle – the two cities share the same airport), then sold to second American owner in Seattle area (Bainbridge Island) who brought her to Campbell River on Vancouver Island as he now shares a small nearby island with others, the reason he sold the boat to me, the third owner, a Canadian resident in Vancouver. Boat is registered in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island where we have another property.</div> <div> Incidentally, the type is A-4 (rear cockpit, full wheelhouse); I had not noticed your types when I filled in the form.</div> <div> I have to go to the Boat to obtain the Boat number; I will send that to you in due course.</div> <div> Please also advise of post 2007 get-together. I come to Sweden/ Norway and Belgium, every two years, and could join you (but likely not with the boat) after 2007. The year 2007 is circumnavigation of Vancouver Island (3 weeks +) and trips up North on this coast.</div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="102efc5f0.jpg" border=0 width="252" height="351" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="103112600.jpg" border=0 width="530" height="352" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <B>Feb 2, 2007</B></div> <div> <B>From the Commodore:</B></div> <bR> <div> I have had my home computer out of work for a long time, so no updates of these pages have been done from last December till today. </div> <div> Now everything's correct again and I will continue updating the site as usual.</div> <div> Thanks to all for your patience.</div> <div> Guillermo Gefaell</div> <div> BMC Commodore</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 19, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BANJER #12 & CHAPEAU, regarding PANDORA's problem</B></div> <div> (A very nice example of collaborativeness among members)</div> <bR> <div> ....I was in Vietnam last week and spoke to a guy from Promac. He told me that all parts should still be available.</div> <div> Please let me know if you still require the parts. I can talk to him and maybe arrange something. If so let me have the parts numbers.</div> <div> (BANJER #12)</div> <bR> <div> ....(PANDORA) has asked me for help. He had sent me money by mail. Last week I  phoned Promac and paid the spares. </div> <div> So Promac will send the spares to (him) now.</div> <div> (CHAPEAU)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Nov 08, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From ANNE MARIE ex-owners</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo, </div> <div> I would like to inform you, that we have sold our banjer 37 three weeks ago. We were contacted via your web side, and found very nice people who will take care of our boat as well as we did over the last 26 years. </div> <div> Never the less we will also in the future visit your web side seeing all these beatiful fotos of other banjers, because for sure we will miss our boat very much. </div> <div> Kind regards </div> <div> Karl and Anne Marie.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Oct 30, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BANJER (#12) to PANDORA:</B></div> <div> About 30 years ago my father bought one of the old canal barges in Holland and it had the same Seffle steering gear as on the Banjers. We also had a problem with the ball joints one day. I guess you mean with these the four flexible connection points on the steering gear foundation and the rudder yoke.</div> <div> If I remember correctly we exchanged them with the ball joint from the steering system of the volkswagen bus model of that time. (Early seventies) This solution has been working for 20 years. I am not 100% sure but I am quite sure that this type of VW bus must be still driving around in Jordan.</div> <div> Good luck and best regards.</div> <bR> <div> <B>From PELICAN OF BIRDHAM to PANDORA</B></div> <div> I have talked to my engineer over in the west of Scotland. </div> <div> He has talked to a UK company that are the UK agents for Promac in Holland. We are giving then full details of our steering to see what they can do to replace parts in my steering box. If I have to get a new box I will let you know but it maybe sometime before my engineer has time to work on it. </div> <div> By all means contact them with your problem. They are:</div> <div> <B>Martin Saer </B></div> <div> <B>Euromarine Ltd </B></div> <div> <B>++44 238 058 0020 </B></div> <div> <B>m.saer@eiromarine.com</B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Arial" > </FONT></div> <div> Good luck! I hope they can help.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>Oct 28, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From PANDORA</B></div> <div> Hi guillermo,</div> <div> Here are some news from PANDORA . Since we last met in Rotterdam in 2004 , Pandora left Turkey .We reached Israel after a stop in Cyprus. Last november (in 2005 ) we joined a rallye heading for India: <A HREF="http://www.vascodagamayachtrallye.nl" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://www.vascodagamayachtrallye.nl"><U><B>www.vascodagamarallye.nl</B></U></A></div> <div> We didn’t want to go so far so quick , so we stopped  in Eilat , in the north of the gulf of AQABA . We are now in JORDAN , enjoying our stay here with 30 degrees .BUT ALL IS WELL  THAT DOESN’T END WELL!!  In fact we have a problem with our SEFFLE steering wheel : one of the four balljoints is damaged  and a bit loose .We managed to repair this problem by adjusting a washer above the balljoint but  we would prefer, of course, to change the balljoints .We sent a mail to PROMAC : info@promac.nl  which is supposed to replace SEFFLE, to order the spareparts but no answer at the moment . Do you know where we could find this ? On our  hydraulic steering gear system we can read TYPE  HL 44O number 522 . Thanks for your help even if you can’t help us !!! We’ll be there at the next club gathering  </div> <div> from D. and M. onboard PANDORA</div> <bR> <div> (As I have not better info about Seffle than the constat in the Workshop page, I forwarded the letter to several members to find out if somebody can be of more help. Guillermo)</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 22, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From ALBATROS owners:</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo</div> <div> Although a bit late, please find some pictures of the mini-Banjer meeting in Falmouth July/August. </div> <div> By copying .... you will see our 3 banjers (<B>Albatros, Young Banjer </B>and <B>Dutchess of Lynn</B>) laying together in Falmouth. </div> <div> ......</div> <div> Hope you can do something with these pictures on the web site! </div> <div> Best regards, </div> <div> R & J</div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="10115f070.png" border=0 width="351" height="263" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="101361080.png" border=0 width="353" height="264" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <div> <B>October 18, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From BRAVOUR owner:</B></div> <div> I have now assembled my summer photos and send you a selection and a list of what I have done to Bravour over the last nine months.</div> <div> I bought her in Hellevoetsluijs in November 2005 and then she went to Jachthaven Numansdorp where the following work was undertaken:</div> <bR> <div> engine out for rebuilding,</div> <div> gearbox split and refurbished</div> <div> new fuel pump</div> <div> new alternator</div> <div> new starter-motor</div> <div> new prop</div> <div> new prop-shaft</div> <div> new flexible engine-mounts</div> <div> new flexible coupling</div> <div> main-mast support fabricated and fitted,</div> <div> seacocks replaced,</div> <div> anchor-winch refurbished,</div> <div> Sea-Me radar transponder fitted,</div> <div> radar serviced and repaired</div> <div> new depth and speed transponders fitted</div> <div> Yeoman chart plotting system fitted</div> <bR> <div> This year I have cruised along the N. Brittany coast and she is now back in .... UK where additional work is being undertaken:</div> <bR> <div> Fit new heads holding tank</div> <div> Fit new autopilot</div> <div> New rubbing-strakes</div> <div> Repaint shear-line</div> <bR> <div> Here are some photos of boat, work and cruise.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="ffc53ff0.jpg" border=0 width="339" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="ffe54ff0.jpg" border=0 width="340" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="1000bfff0.jpg" border=0 width="191" height="255" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 18, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From R</B><B>ik, in The Netherlands:</B></div> <div> Is it possible to put a banjer 37' on a bank with low tide?</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from the Club:</B></div> <div> Dear Rik,</div> <div> Sorry for the delay in answering, but I've been out of town for several days.</div> <div> Answering your question: Yes, it is posssible to lay a Banjer on her keel with no problems at all. The only thing you'll need is a pair of 'legs' to keep her upright when the tide comes down.</div> <div> All the best.</div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>October 03, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>Even more info from Jan:</B></div> <div> Jan tells us his father's Banjer was named <B>NINA II</B></div> <div> We know this Banjer has been seen sailing east Med not a long time ago. </div> <div> We would be delighted to receive her owners as members of the BMC.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 06, 2006.</B></div> <div> <B>More from Jan:</B></div> <div> Dear Guillermo,</div> <div> ....My father´s Banjer was berthed in the harbor of Jachtwerf Tjeukemeer in Lemmer/Ijsselmeer/Holland from 1972 until 1978, and in Marina Stavoren from 1978 until 1983/84. It was a "standard" Banjer, cockpit, wheelhouse, no aft cabin. Ketch-rigged (no gaff sails), with a Perkins 72 hp engine. It was equipped with a non-standard bowsprit (an own drawing of my father, fitted by Eista in Nederhemert around 1976): rather short (about 100 cm), massive teak, rectangular shape, treadmaster on the top, railing around it, with integrated anchor roll. Maybe that helps to find the boat. I do not know whether the new owners kept the name, but as far as I remember, the boat was sold to a retired engineer and his wife and they wanted to sail the mediterranean...? Maybe I can contact de Valk and find out more about it, I will let you know....</div> <div> Kindest regards,</div> <div> Jan.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>September 03, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From Jan B. willing to own a Banjer:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear All,</div> <div> when I was little, my father owned a Banjer, <B>"Nina II"</B>, built in 1972, which he sold with de Valk in Hindeloopen in 1984/85. My whife an I are now looking for a new boat, and I have to admit I have always been dreaming of owning a Banjer myself. I wonder whether anyone might know where the hull molds of the Banjer ended up. I know that some years ago there has been a "startup" shipyard in Germany, advertising a "Bose 37" which must have been a Banjer. I have never heard of them again, and Google seems to be of no big help here. Do you have any idea who I could contact? </div> <div> Kindest regards, Jan B.</div> <bR> <div> (Contacts with Jan through the Club. If you know something about the Banjer moulds, please tell us. <A HREF="contactus.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Contact Us "><U><B>Contacts</B></U></A>)</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 29, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From KITTYHAWK's owner:</B></div> <div> Dear Chuck,</div> <div> Removing the rudder is simple.You first have to remove the hydroulic cylinder from the ruddershaft, then unthighten the ring that is placed around the rudder shaft ,  then you just have to lift the rudder (including the shaft) up a bit out of the lower bearing .Then you lower the complete rudder.</div> <div> On the Kittyhawk the bearing is not made of tufnol but of copper outside and rubber inside. The same as the bearing of the proppelorshaft.</div> <div> When you remove the 4 bolts of the little square on your rudder , you can take the ruddershaft and the rudder apart.</div> <div> It seems to me unlikely that the 6 centimeters thick ruddershaft is broken unless it is corroded.</div> <div> For this i have placed an annode of zinck material around the shaft.</div> <div> It looks like the inside metal strips of your rudder (inside the polyester hull of the rudder) are broken.</div> <div> In that case the rudder and the hydroulic cylinder can move seperately as well.</div> <div> Sorry for the english.</div> <div> Kind regards, Dees.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>August 24, 2006</B></div> <div> <B>From MARIBE's owner:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Guillermo: </div> <div> .................................</div> <div> I do have a problem I would like some input on: A few years after the boat was new, the rudder developed so much friction in the tufnol (?) bearings that it could not be turned with the emergency tiller, only the hydraulics had enough power to overcome the friction and damage was done to the plywood shelf where the upper flange secures the top of the rudder post. </div> <div> We removed the rudder (In the boatyard) and relieved the bearings by grinding with a cylinder honing tool, reassembled it and had no further trouble until now, when the rudder shaft has apparently broken inside the grease tube, between the upper and lower bearing, as the rudder moves freely and the steering quadrant moves freely, independently of each other.It may be that the period of heavy friction stressed the rudder post to a fatigue failure mode.My immediate problem is the removal of the rudder, while the boat is in the water, (vastly inconvenient to move to a boatyard) My memory does not suffice to recall the details of the previous rudder removal, but the rudder itself has a flange about four inches square which is attached with four bolts to an identical flange on the bottom of the "stub" rudder post which extends up through the grease-filled tube to the upper bearing and quadrant. These flanges are just below the water line and easily accessible, but if I remove those bolts, can I swing the rudder out and away from the heel bearing, or do I have to push the upper part of the ruder post up to get enough clearance? </div> <bR> <div> Maybe others have had similar rudder problems, but our experience with the tight bearings is a caution for any Banjer owner, easily checked if you open the hydraulic bypass valve and try the manual emergency tiller for excessive resistance to turning the rudder. </div> <bR> <div> Well, such a spiel, and nothing said about the marvelous qualities of Banjers, their comfort, seaworthiness, and the surprise many "old tropic hands" displayed when they discovered the "north sea pilot house" is actually a luxury in the tropics! </div> <div> With thanks,..........</div> <div> Chuck R.</div> <bR> <div> <B>Answer from Guillermo:</B></div> <bR> <div> Dear Chuck, </div> <div> Thanks for your most interesting message. With your permission I'll post it at our web pages, for other Banjer owners to know about the rudder stock problems. </div> <div> Personally I do not have experience dismounting the rudder, as I had not the needing to do it until now, but I think dismounting can be safely done afloat. In my opinion, after removing flange bolts, you should lift somewhat the rudder stock with its flange before taking off the rudder, just not to force the base pin and bearing. </div> <div> I would be happy to receive a nice photo from MARIBE whenever you get one. </div> <div> Let me know if I can be of further help. I recommend you to post technical questions, as this rudder stock one, at the Maintenance Forum you can access from our Home page. Maybe other members can also be of help to you through that Forum. </div> <div> All the best. </div> <div> Guillermo.</div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>11.06.2006</B></div> <div> <B>From Oscar Alstede, BMC's  Secretary:</B></div> <bR> <div> Banjers photos at Oscar Alstede's site:  <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/oalstede" TARGET="_top" TITLE="http://community.webshots.com/user/oalst"><U><B>http://community.webshots.com/user/oalstede</B></U></A><B>   </B></FONT><B>45,000 - Photoviews</B> passed !!!</div> <div> The 1,476 photos have been viewed 45,405 times since January 17th 2004</div> <div> Regards,</div> <div> Oscar Alstede</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>06.05.2006</B></div> <div> <B>Great help from friend Tad Roberts, a boatdesigner from Canada with lovely designs:</B></div> <bR> <div> Guillermo,</div> <div> I attach a scan from the Perkins sheet on the 4236M. Hope this is of some help. No fuel use mentioned! If you would like the other pages just let me know.</div> <div> Pity there is no specific fuel use curve. My thought was that at your reported consumption of 1.08 lts/mile at 6 knots which I put at 1.71 US gph the engine is producing somewhere between 26.6 and 34 HP? That’s specific consumption of .35-.45 pounds of fuel per HP hour.</div> <div> All the best, Tad</div> <bR> <div> Tad Roberts Yacht Design</div> <div> PO Box 33</div> <div> Gabriola Island, BC</div> <div> V0R 1X0 Canada</div> <div> 250-247-9315</div> <div> email <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0000FF" FACE="Arial" ><U>tadroberts@shaw.ca</U></FONT></div> <div> <U>www.tadroberts.ca</U></div> <div> <U>www.passagemakerlite.com</U></div> <div> <U>www.shipyardraid.ca</U></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B>(Find more info at Workshop page)</B></div> <div> <A HREF="members_workshop.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Workshop"><U><B><IMG SRC="fca72e40.jpg" border=0 width="370" height="484" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></U></A></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>02.05.2006</B></div> <div> <B>From member Brian Hull:</B></div> <div> Guillermo, </div> <div> Last Sunday the Royal Papua Yacht Club had its annual sail past to signal the opening of the sailing season. </div> <div> I gave the club the option to consider Duck Soup as either a motor boat or sail boat as Banjers are 50/50 motor sailers.</div> <div> Duck Soup won the prize of PGK500 for best dressed motor boat. </div> <div> I will be coming to Europe for three weeks at the beginning of July. </div> <div> I am flying from Port Moresby to Singapore/Bangkok/Helsinki/Brussels and will be staying with friends at Waterloo just outside Brussels.</div> <div> My plans are very fluid and should there be something of interest to Banjer owners occurring whist in Europe I may be able to attend.</div> <div> Keep in touch. </div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fb84fdf0.jpg" border=0 width="335" height="223" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  <IMG SRC="fba50e00.jpg" border=0 width="336" height="224" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>14.01.2006</B></div> <div> <B>Good old Marie and the BMC in the Spanish newspapers...</B></div> <bR> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <B><IMG SRC="fb3bc790.jpg" border=0 width="700" height="633" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <A HREF="#letters_from_members___friends" TITLE="B F Letters"><U><IMG SRC="4a70e0e0.png" border=0 width="14" height="14" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0">  Back to Top</U></A></div> <DIV ALIGN="LEFT"></DIV> <div> <IMG SRC="1e627200.png" border=0 width="551" height="32" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>  <script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="http://hv3.webstat.com/cgi-bin/wsv2.cgi?3533"></script> <noscript> <a href="http://www.webstat.com"> <img src="http://hv3.webstat.com/scripts/wsb.php?ac=3533" border="0" alt="Free Web Analytics and Free Hit Tracker by WebSTAT" /></a> </noscript>   </B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> </td> </tr></table></body>